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Posted by koshyjohn 17 hours ago

AI should elevate your thinking, not replace it(www.koshyjohn.com)
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archfrog 13 hours ago|
Very apt headline, IMHO.

I have been an ardent opponent of AI since it came up a few years back. I refuse to vibe code and I refuse to let AI think for me. I won't be an AI controller.

However, two days ago I found a nice, personal use case for AI: Advanced writing checks (grammar checks, mostly, and some rewordings) in Word using a rather expensive app.

I write a lot of US English, despite it not being my native language, and AI is now helping me to write much better than I did before. Also, I discovered that I am much worse at writing Danish than I was believing. In fact, I think I am better at writing US English than at Danish, that's a bit surprising as I am a Dane.

No AI was used during the writing of this entry, but I dearly love the writing tool already! I have heard similar stories from friends who say that AI is very good at summarizing long documents and stuff like that.

So, I personally think that AI CAN elevate one's thinking. I am learning more about Danish and US English grammar every day, now, than I did during a decade before. Writing is suddenly so fun because it involves growing my skills.

conqrr 16 hours ago||
This is a huge concern and I fully agree with the post. Even though one might think I am not fully giving into AI, this was always the case etc. It still affects YOU and everyone else. 1. Software, often, isn't built in vacuum. Lots of companies are shoving AI down throats like it or not. Most Bigtech is heavily using metrics to get to 100% AI generated code. Reviewing is a nightmare. 2. New entrants (new grads etc) are largely AI first and are losing out on the safety and reliability aspects that are enforced automatically when you learn coding without AI.

IMO, teams need to agree on a set of principles on AI usage, concrete examples of where and how to use it. Perhaps its much more useful in parts of your system that's faster evolving and doesn't have too much core logic like testing frameworks etc

Simply discarding it as 'yet another tool' is part of the problem.

alecco 15 hours ago||
CoRecursive had a really good episode about this last August:

"Coding in the Red-Queen Era" https://corecursive.com/red-queen-coding/

krishna3145 12 hours ago||
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47916430 Check this out on LLMS security.
cvanelteren 14 hours ago||
Wrote a similar take on it here:https://thefriendlyghost.nl/chinese-room-ai/
e1ghtSpace 6 hours ago||
what if it seems ai has literally replaced your thinking? Is there a way to unreplace it? im talking literally.
oxag3n 14 hours ago||
> split people into two nebulous groups

shows both groups using AI differently. Hard to continue reading the article that excludes your group entirely.

smj-edison 16 hours ago||
On the point of avoiding the struggle of learning, I think it's easy to swing too far the other direction and go back to not using modern development tools. I think it is doing a new learner a disservice by saying something like "don't use GDB/REPL/AI tool to learn, since you'll never learn the fundamentals". I think all of these tools allow for learning, if that's how the learner engages with them. So I hope that AI becomes integrated in the learning process, as far as it accelerates and doesn't replace understanding.
journal 17 hours ago||
A.I. is creating engineers who can't WORK without it
erdaniels 51 minutes ago|
I think if anyone is looking for a concise way to talk about the problems with LLM and agentic coding, it's this. People say AI assisted coding but for much of what I've seen (and tried), it's the tool, gateway, and interface to some people's work now.
throwyawayyyy 14 hours ago|
> Going back to the analogies: This is like copying answers through university and then showing up to a job that requires independent thought.

That's exactly what is happening now. I wouldn't even call it an analogy, I'd call it an example of where AI is already having a baleful effect. FWIW I don't disagree with the article's thesis or the examples: yes, absolutely, if used well AI can elevate engineers in exactly this way and it behooves us engineers to use it in that way. We can also say that the deliberate design of the AI systems we are constantly being exhorted to use inclines them towards work-slop and abdicated thinking.

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