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Posted by newsoftheday 1 day ago

Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers(old.reddit.com)
622 points | 244 commentspage 2
Fairburn 1 day ago|
Use anything BUT Chrome or Edge.
stronglikedan 1 day ago|
I've tried them all but nothing so far beats the UX of Chrome.
shlewis 1 day ago||
Genuinely curious what makes you say that. Haven't used Chrome for a really long time and not once I've missed it.
forgotusername6 1 day ago||
Surely there's a googler on here who actually knows whether they are doing this. Anyone actually know or is this post all about Chrome bashing and speculation?
suprjami 1 day ago|
Certainly. You think they're going to comment? That itself would be another headline article.
makeramen 1 day ago||
Gemini is also the only major provider where you can't opt out of using your data for training without disabling chat history.
wafflemaker 1 day ago||
Since the thread evolved into browser comparisons, I'd like to endorse a better uBlock ('s fork) - AdNausem.

It doesn't block ads. It clicks them first, and then blocks them.

I don't want websites to loose revenue because of my adnlocker. I want them to make extra money because of it!

I'm not affiliated, but would like the project to get more followers. This can stop ads once and for all.

robhlt 1 day ago||
These "clicks" are likely identified as fraudulent and dropped by the ad network. So you still pay the cost of downloading and running all the advertising JS and you still get tracked by the ad networks, all for nothing.
wafflemaker 1 day ago|||
https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/wiki/FAQ#how-does-adnause...

You seem more knowledgeable in how browsers and js work than me. Does the below text still mean that AdNausem is downloading and running all the advertising JS?

Here's what's in the link: >AdNauseam 'clicks' Ads by issuing an HTTP request to the URL to which they lead. In current versions this is done via an XMLHttpRequest (or AJAX request) issued in a background process. This lightweight request signals a 'click' on the server responsible for the Ad, but does so without opening any additional windows or pages on your computer. Further it allows AdNauseam to safely receive and discard the resulting response data, rather than executing it in the browser, thus preventing a range of potential security problems (ransomware, rogue Javascript or Flash code, XSS-attacks, etc.) caused by malfunctioning or malicious Ads.

robhlt 1 day ago||
Basically zero ads are just static images with a link, they're dynamically loaded by JS when you open the page. The JS collects as much tracking data about you as it can, sends that off to the ad network servers which run a live auction to determine who will pay the most to show an ad to you right now, then returns that ad for the JS to display.

AdNauseam not loading the response to the "click" request makes it trivially easy to flag as fraudulent, because a real click would load and run the response.

tardedmeme 1 day ago|||
What metrics does the ad network use to identify the clicks as "fraudulent"?
robhlt 1 day ago||
The same metrics any site uses to identify bot behavior. It's a closely guarded secret because if the attackers knew what metrics they used the attackers would know how to not get caught.

Another reply pointed out that AdNauseam just makes an http request to simulate a "click" and throws away the response. A real click would load and execute the response so it's trivially easy for ad networks to detect AdNauseam "clicks".

BrenBarn 1 day ago|||
How will it stop ads if it rewards them with money?
wafflemaker 1 day ago|||
It makes them burn money with no effect. Doesn't work every time, but still sends a message.
stronglikedan 1 day ago||||
It rewards Google with the advertiser's money, and the advertisers don't like paying for extremely low conversion rates.
dsr_ 1 day ago||||
Because it could eventually be detected as click-fraud, and ad networks hate paying out for click-fraud.
tcp_handshaker 1 day ago|||
You question is the answer to your query
footy 1 day ago||
I too am surprised anyone uses Chrome, but I will admit to feeling similarly surprised by how many people use Brave. The company seems so sketchy to me, and I wonder why people who presumably care about web standards are so willing to use Chromium-based anything too.
foota 1 day ago||
I wonder if this is in response to the chrome incognito lawsuit.
ubermonkey 1 day ago||
I still don't understand why so many people have accepting using an ad company's browser.

The motivation vectors exist here to ensure that, over time, Chrome behaves in ways the end user DOES NOT WANT.

RegW 1 day ago|
Because they don't know

(that they are an ad company (and they don't know what the implication is)).

arian_ 1 day ago||
"on-device" is doing a lot of heavy lifting when the device is a thin client to Google's servers wearing a trench coat.
darepublic 23 hours ago||
Would ad blockers stop this traffic from being sent
akomtu 1 day ago|
It's on-device AI spyware, really. It collects intelligence about the user, summarizes it and sends it to Google, all paid by the user's electricity bill. Deviously clever.
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