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Posted by akrylov 1 day ago

The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization(avkcode.github.io)
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boxed 1 day ago|
Hopefully it's a race worth winning and not a race to global disaster.
nba456_ 1 day ago|
Even if it leads to global disaster, you'd rather be the country with the best AI. You won't be saved just because your AI is worse.
embedding-shape 1 day ago|||
> Even if it leads to global disaster, you'd rather be the country with the best AI

Depends no? If the "Best AI" means "The AI decides when you wake up, go to work, and go to bed", then I probably want to live in the country with the worst AI or even without.

If it instead means "UBI and healthcare for everyone, money lost all meaning and we're all just having fun while AI does all the boring stuff" then yes. But since capitalism still exists, that's a pipe-dream, and "Best AI" won't lead to that for the average person, only for the 0.1%.

tsunamifury 1 day ago|||
This is a false dilemma created by the model companies to try to convince us we must invest or else.
hansmayer 1 day ago||
What does the term "AI race" even mean, beyond wooing clueless VCs and soon retail investors ? It's not like the LLMs are some super-secret technology. Any economy willing to sink in copious amounts of money and resources can get it to some level - the question, what's the actual payoff? We have yet to see anything really useful, on the level of step change, besides Johnny who can now spin up demo projects quicker.
SubiculumCode 1 day ago|
Not if they cannot get the GPUs.
mekdoonggi 23 hours ago||
If China can't get the GPU's they'll build them. If they can't build them they'll smuggle them, and either way, eventually they will take over Taiwan, and then the US will be wondering what they can cook with leftovers.
SubiculumCode 23 hours ago||
Opinions are easy.
jauntywundrkind 1 day ago||
The US has destroyed the PC market perhaps irrevocably, and made getting small single-board-computers for new products extraordinarily difficult. It's enraged its own populus with skyrocketing energy prices causing wild consumer shock. It's waged a trade war over chips that has lead China to develop their own, which they have done astoundingly quickly with phenomenal success, far far faster than anyone could have guessed.

As with another recent example, sometimes in war there is no winning: just loss. This is obviously for us programmers an incredible and wild age, filled with nothing short of miracles. It's incredible. But the prices we are paying, the extreme tensions we are creating, the stress and strain of this all has been incredibly unpleasant, and very very very few people feel like they are seeing upsides to this worrisome menacing age, that promises very few people on the planet anything better coming, and which. Has already made life considerably worse, which no nation has yet directed towards helping its people.

akrylov 1 day ago||
The trade war and tariffs are bringing inflation, consumer prices will soar, but from a geoeconomical standpoint this will hurt China (And EU) more than US. US consumer on average has the deepest pockets in the World and people the top will make money on insider trading, stock anyways. If AI tokens will become like US dollar, it will be under total control of the Fed.
mold_aid 1 day ago||
>The US has destroyed the PC market perhaps irrevocably, and made getting small >single-board-computers for new products extraordinarily difficult. It's enraged >its own populus with skyrocketing energy prices causing wild consumer shock.

Strikes me as the real outcome: the end of "personal" computing, "local" anything.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 1 day ago||
so much winning https://layoffs.fyi/
axblount 1 day ago||
"Methinks the lady doth protest too much"
josefritzishere 1 day ago||
The word "winning" implies there is an upside.
tinfoilhatter 1 day ago||
It's a race straight to the bottom. Anyone who gets excited about being a more efficient and productive corporate wage slave that gets to train their future AI replacement is either a shill or not very intelligent.
diego_moita 1 day ago||
> Winning the AI Race

Which one of them all?

If you mean "building models that are very good at coding and as substitutes for search engines", then yeah, sure.

But if you mean: "applying AI to industrial applications and robotics", then China is far ahead: https://time.com/7382151/china-dominates-the-physical-ai-rac...

dfxm12 21 hours ago||
By this article, "the US" is not winning. Sam, Dario, Elon, Zuck, etc. are.

It remains what benefit, if any, Americans will see from all this...

1a527dd5 1 day ago|
I mean you can argue the same about Telsa, but look at BYD now.

Just because you are first to do x, doesn't mean you are going to be the winner.

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