Posted by xx_ns 6 hours ago
So wirelessly writing custom firmware to someone else's device that is connected via USB to their computer without even needing to pair is not a security vulnerability. Yea.
Makes you wonder what other peripheral companies out there are also operating with seemingly no security team. There must be other vulnerabilities like this just waiting to be discovered.
My brother was awoken one morning at 2am because some neighborhood kids connected to his bluetooth speaker and blasted fart sounds on loop at max volume, and that's literally only the absolute tippy top of the malicious bluetooth use iceberg.
I don't know if it's a useful answer to people saying this kind of stuff, but here are some examples of other attacks arbitrary USB pwn allows.
A USB device can appear as a network adapter and most OS will happily route all your traffic there, so your speaker can know which porn you're looking at!
It can also appear as a DisplayLink dongle, so it can see what's on the screen (it does require those specific drivers installed, and uh yeah, no way in hell it's technically possible on that MCU).
It can also turn it into a mouse jiggler to prevent lock screen (yes it's technically the same thing as your first point, just HID, but different angle).
It can also appear as a USB-storage: You don't trust the cloud, so you're writing those super secret documents to give to your boss on the USB drive you just plugged in? Surprise, you actually sent it to the attacker.
Thankfully I don't think I've seen these for sale.
What sensors would they have that could be exploited by an attacker?
I run my home automation network entirely offline, so anything that needs the internet doesn't get added to my cart. I just do not trust the security of these IoT vendors at all, and refuse to have their nonsense cluttering up my limited network bandwidth and causing unknown problems.
(Edit: maybe not obvious, this is in the "smart bulbs" product category. Regular bulbs are still much more common on store shelves, because why fix what isn't broken? Most people don't need to automate their light bulbs.)
The reflashing interface being available over Bluetooth is weird but you will need physical access to pair with the speaker AFAIK
Edit: I was wrong, this is a BTLE endpoint that works without pairing. In that case, this is a ridiculous vulnerability. I hope they'll patch it in a way that doesn't take away the ability to run your own software.
This is negligence of the highest kind.
I expect some dodgy company to try to shirk out of it, I don't expect a country's cybersecurity agency to do so
Bluetooth works fine through walls.
Is this some legal thing so they can claim that a protection was circumvented? E.g. to void warranty or be able to sue?
Any script kiddie with an LLM could write a worm that would spread through the supply chain, possibly even hacking speakers right on the factory floor and blasting Rickroll music or something similar.
It would be interesting to see if Creative would still claim that it "does not present a cybersecurity risk".
Edit: Bonus points for closing the security hole and disabling the ability to flash the firmware normally, so that the manufacturer would have to jailbreak the speakers in order to repair them.
At least used to. SOTA models are enrolling even bigger restrictions all the time and deprecating old models, while asking government IDs.
To be extra malicious, if you can infect a connected pc make it propagate the worm to any similar device plugged into the pc over usb in the future.
People who understand tech keep an axe next to their toaster.
A = The number of speakers in the field. B = The probable rate of getting hacked. C = The average out-of-court settlement.
The Decision: If the cost of not doing a recall/fix is greater than the cost of a recall, they initiate a recall, yada yada yada (Note that the big cost is if people will stop buying future speakers, I think not)
Now that I think about it, I think you have to assume that they probably DO do this...
I would be kind of surprised if this wasn't standard practice, unless it's not nearly as productive as one might imagine it to be, and thus maybe not worth the effort. But cases like this show it could be pretty fruitful, but I suppose that depends on how it compares to whatever other methods intelligence agencies have that we may not know about.
Living with your parents is more socially acceptable, so they have a huge chunk of people in their 20s with no debt, low monthly expenses, strong technology expertise from their military service, in a founder hot spot, and access to capital. The result is a lot of unicorns, particular around cyber security (https://www.techaviv.com/unicorns).
Compare to the United States, where you have to dedicate 4 years to an undergrad program, go massively in debt, pay rent, and then struggle to find seed funding. The mental model of "oh, I guess we could apply some of the detritus of our failed system" misses the idea of having a successful system in the first place.
What’s easier, marketing or finding bugs :-)
(Not a rhetorical question)
Exfiltrating via audio also brings to mind one of those devices I really wanted to build ~20 years ago that can listen to the inside of a room by bouncing a laser beam off a window. Van pulls up in front of your house, pushes malicious code via bluetooth to speaker, which starts shrieking data it stole from the host that's then picked up by the vibrations it emparts on a window by a laser beam. Boom, crypto wallet stolen, or something... you could probably put that in a movie.