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Posted by coloneltcb 7 hours ago

VoidZero Is Joining Cloudflare(blog.cloudflare.com)
453 points | 215 commentspage 3
postalcoder 7 hours ago|
Had no idea Vite and OXC were made by the same company. Makes so much sense.

I don’t get the complaining about OS developers behind these incredible pieces of software like uv, bun, etc is a bad thing. If anything, it’ll continue to incentivize great developers to fill in the blanks and continue to push things forward. It’s a win for everyone.

Sammi 6 hours ago|
OXC predates VoidZero and is made by Boshen. Evan had to try for a while until he was able to convince Boshen to join them. OXC is the best of the JS toolchains implemented in Rust, so it was definitely a scoop.
joeyhage 5 hours ago||
Everything Cloudflare is announcing could have been done without acquiring VoidZero. The part they aren’t saying is the greater influence they will have on the roadmap and protecting themselves from someone else acquiring vite and making it closed source and/or monetizing it. We’ve seen it so many times - a project promises to stay free and open source, but things change. Are there any licenses or contracts that a project could use and would hold up in court that they need to stay FOSS forever?
shimman 5 hours ago|
This is why we need to start advocating more public investment into open source technology. Imagine how much better the state of our industry would be if we gave 100,000 open source developers a $100,000 grant. This modest $10,000,000,000 fund would be extremely tiny compared to the bloated private research we see annually at corporations.

Such a wasted amount of capital doing fuck all when there can be real value and economic gain if we supported open source without the influence of VC + big tech that seem to want a return to feudalism, exacerbate the climate crisis, and hoard as much wealth as possible.

A better world is possible.

Ajunne 7 hours ago||
I love how they always make it sound like this is by choice.

"VoidZero is joining Cloudflare"

As if they chose to do that. Yes, they agreed to it, but in the end it was just a huge financial transaction.

But i guess "Cloudflare buys VoidZero" just sounds less friendly. Even though that is exactly what happened.

Aurornis 7 hours ago||
> As if they chose to do that. Yes, they agreed to it,

That is the definition of making a choice.

This is some incredible mental backflipping to suggest that their choice wasn’t their choice.

CapsAdmin 6 hours ago||
Just to steelman the GP; some people in the company made a choice while the rest had no say.

I personally think the owners should get to decide, but it's an interesting duality.

(assuming it's not like everyone has a share or something, in which case they would've all had to agree I guess)

Aurornis 6 hours ago|||
> I personally think the owners should get to decide, but it's an interesting duality.

The owners of a business get to decide what to do with their business.

> (assuming it's not like everyone has a share or something, in which case they would've all had to agree I guess)

Unanimous agreement among shareholders is not necessary to sell a company.

The employees might have had some shares in the company, but not all share classes have equal voting rights. It’s also unlikely that employees in aggregate would have had enough shares to override everyone else anyway. Once shares are split among investors, founders, and employees the individual ownership of any one person or group becomes small.

I wouldn’t assume that the employees wanted to avoid acquisition. They likely benefited significantly from their shares being acquired and their new compensation packages. Imagining that the employees resisted this is projecting some other story on to them

pjmlp 6 hours ago||||
That is what being employed means, otherwise own the business.
hobofan 5 hours ago||||
If you join an company with next to no monetizable business model like this, you already have made your choice that you are fine with acquisition when you joined, or have deferred your choice to make a stay/leave decision until the acquisition.
weird-eye-issue 6 hours ago|||
> I personally think the owners should get to decide

Wow. Bold opinion. The owners of a company get to decide what to do with it?

esskay 7 hours ago|||
> Evan and the rest of the VoidZero team continue to lead Vite, Vitest, Rolldown, Oxc, and Vite+.

Explain how thats not a clear indication of this being a choice and something they agreed to.

TheAlexLichter 7 hours ago|||
1) The blog post mentions "acquisition" multiple times. 2) VoidZero joins Cloudflare is still correct. Nobody forced anyone to accept a deal and do so
pjmlp 6 hours ago|||
Yes, people love to blame the Microsoft's, Google's, Apple's and co.

However the poor guys also have to legally accept being bought.

Lets not pretend they aren't putting money into the bank.

nkohari 7 hours ago||
It is by choice, though? VoidZero was well-capitalized and could easily have continued to raise money for the foreseeable.
fredoliveira 45 minutes ago||
Could they? Under what business model? Maybe the numbers for the paid products just weren't there and they see this exit as a positive for the team?
Maiko11 4 hours ago||
All of them are getting acquired nothing bad in that but I feel like the path to revenue with open source just isn't viable anymore. You have to build your own platform like vercel, or build great dev tools like mintlify
ipaddr 4 hours ago|
Vercel is killing free public repos in a month. Lure then lock in and pull the rug out.
Maiko11 41 minutes ago||
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todotask2 4 hours ago||
Cloudflare acquiring Astro and VoidZero was unexpected. I’ve been using Astro for a solo project, which made things easier to manage.

It also came at a time when expectations for the project were starting to increase.

tracerbulletx 3 hours ago||
Everyone's trying to build end to end agent -> prod platforms and wants to own the tooling for the dev environment part of that.
opem 3 hours ago||
I thought they're gonna build their own hosting platform eventually. Where is the fun in this :(
dzonga 3 hours ago||
5 years too late. at most this acquisition should've happened before Cloudflare went all in on workers.
ruguo 4 hours ago||
First Bun went to Anthropic. Then Astro and now VoidZero to Cloudflare. Feels like all my favorite open-source projects are getting adopted by the giants.
outlore 6 hours ago|
Well at least this time we don’t have to worry about them rewriting their tooling in Rust
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