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Posted by poisonfountain 20 hours ago

LLMs are eroding my software engineering career and I don't know what to do(human-in-the-loop.bearblog.dev)
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steveBK123 18 hours ago|
> when I step outside my area of deep knowledge I can no longer call BS on the agents

It's still funny that 4 years into this mania the models can hallucinate basic ground truths, humans are increasingly not reviewing the output, and misusing LLMs where simple automation would suffice.

My wife does project management and works with a lot of tech leads. They came to her with a project plan deck, and she started questioning some weird dates.

The LLM was able to pull artifacts out of their issuer tracker, but it just.. hallucinated some of the dates in the process of creating a project plan deck out of the underlying data. These guys didn't care to review and notice, and who knows what else it hallucinated content wise. They were happy to send this project plan multiple levels up the food chain with hallucinated unreviewed dates.

5 years ago they would have just written a script and had none of this mess.

juleiie 18 hours ago|
That’s why I use AI more like: Write a tool for me that does this.

Instead of directly: do this.

Preferably I would interweave code and AI queries where some function waits on prompt result too I think?? To avoid too big context hallucinations

I mean that would work for my use cases.

At least what I learned is that the less AI itself does in the context is the better so to say as critical LLM mistakes are approaching 100% of probability over time.

steveBK123 17 hours ago||
The crazy thing is how many people who can write code (with or without uAI) are in fact using the LLMs in the latter "go do this" mode.

There are a lot of non-tech people using these products in this manner.

Along these lines my friend is CTO at a non-tech firm and theres vibe coding happening in one department on a project that is going to churn $1M of tokens. Head of that department told him it's OK because instead of paying a SWE annual salary, they'll just pay $1M of tokens once forever.

People don't know what they don't know about software, SDLC, support, maintenance, etc. If code was something you write once and never think about again, most tech orgs could be 75% smaller.

r2ob 18 hours ago||
I'm thinking about taking a plumbing course.
kamranjon 17 hours ago||
“even though you're delivering code at a good pace, you're taking too long to deliver those Design Docs. Are you using AI? You should use more AI.”

This here is the crux of it I think… it’s often promoted that AI will give us the time to do the “real” engineering work of designing systems and really serving the user, but in practice all I’ve seen is further attempts at optimizing every last process with AI - just homogenizing every product and feature into slop.

It feels like every leader has been to some talking points boot camp where they’re incentivized to apply pressure to every part of their process - sort of a desperate attempt to justify the costs they’re incurring. I think we will look back at this and see how obviously short sighted it was.

a4hast 17 hours ago||
Advertisement piece for the IPOs. We get this multiple times daily to pump the stocks and demoralize programmers.
discreteevent 19 hours ago||
This anonymous article is likely more FUD from the AI industry. "Just give up,you can't beat the machine. Please go quietly, we want to take your place and it's easier for everybody if you don't resist because you believe it's pointless"

'Maybe I should consider woodworking' - Fuck off.

peheje 19 hours ago||
resistance is futile
xpct 17 hours ago||
It's futile to race against the money hungry capitalistic machine, but it's not futile to steer your own career into work that's more lucrative or is more enjoyable, be it with our without AI tools.
dwa3592 15 hours ago||
I don't know how else to say this but LLMs are just word calculators. They are becoming better for sure but at this point even Claude 4.8 is absolute shit at any complex task in a not so common field. I have been working on terrain contour matching algorithms for the last few days and, oh boy are the predictions about AI taking over the world wrong. Its the highest level of bullshit I have ever come across in my life. I ended up writing 100% of the actual algorithm myself. It's a productivity mess.
ThrowawayR2 14 hours ago|
> "terrain contour matching algorithms"

That's an extremely niche specialty though. 99% of software development jobs are web frontend/backend or mobile/desktop apps and they are more at risk from LLMs.

dwa3592 14 hours ago||
It's only good at churning out reliable boilerplate. If you want a genuinely good frontend - human creativity still beats AI any day today. Sure it's helpful but I think frontend devs will land just fine on their feet. At least, I hope.
monegator 16 hours ago||
Hear me out: what about just refusing to use them?

why would i ever want to use a tool that remove the part of my job that brings me joy? Fuck productivity, we were already doing good, when we were able to actually do our job, i.e.: not wasting hours in useless meetings, or doing customer care to idiots who could not be bothered to follow instructions, which i shouldn't be doing in the first place. let the LLM do that, or let the human assisted by the LLM do that. Not my job.

dragontamer 15 hours ago|
My boss came up to me and said a coworker using LLM tools has shipped more customer solutions in a week than basically what I've done in 3 months.

The bosses are out to force people like you to use AI. And have been for months.

Maybe not your boss yet, but it swept through my office dramatically. Maybe two or three months from limited tests to now today FORCED usage of AI (people going around the office asking constantly if there's any AI that can help today).

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This has a few toxic effects.

1. You are not allowed to complain about code quality issues anymore. Any complaints are met with okay, we will get the AI to fix it.

No discussion, no elaboration. No one in the office is even interested anymore. AI solves everything.

2. You are basically in a position where you are forced to use AI, whether you want it or not.

3. I expect code quality at my office to drop dramatically as fewer and fewer office mates give a shit

5701652400 18 hours ago||
don't worry, soon there will be no "software engineering" careers anymore.
Kuyawa 17 hours ago||
Shoemakers and horseback messengers complaining while Nike and FedEx deliver a million shoes or packages per day

We won't miss them

dalton_zk 16 hours ago|
The title should be: LLMs are changing my software engineering career and I know what I should do
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