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Posted by gavinray 1 day ago

Building from zero after addiction, prison, and a felony(gavinray97.github.io)
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sam1r 23 hours ago|
>>> I cut the article out and put it in a documents folder.

Had to read this a couple of times, to let it sink in that he is cutting with scissors and placing this paper document in a manilla folder.

tomaytotomato 10 hours ago||
Nice story, I don't personally agree with your choices but you are now back on the straight and narrow, big kudos to you and your wife.
lordsauce 21 hours ago||
I apologize in advance for rambling. I never comment or post anywhere, but your post motivated me to share part of my story. I very much relate to the feeling that sharing can be too personal and too easy to misread.

Thank you for sharing. It’s refreshing to see that there are people who will take a chance on you. Your story helps with the burnout of pushing through with little to no results and exponentially diminishing resources.

I haven’t been so lucky, I joined a tiny startup in 2018 that shut down a year later, landed contract work in 2019 that was meant to convert into full-time, but was let go due to the pandemic right before converting. My most recent employer fired me on christmas of 2022.

I had a falling out with friends because they wouldn’t refer me for any role including tech sales. My uni wouldn't consider me for a master's degree because my microprocessor architecture professor wasn't "comfortable" writing a rec letter despite me sitting front of class and getting an A, all while practically begging students to apply (all 2/2 people that applied got into the program). Even in grade school my 2nd grade teacher was fired for lying to my parents that I was underperforming in school and that I needed to get kicked out of the talented and gifted program and repeat the grade. I still don't know what to make of all of this.

I haven’t been able to land phone screenings, let alone a first round interview anywhere. I am having a hard time getting minimum wage work due to being "over-qualified". I've been priced out of my hometown. I’ve completed web development, data science, and cloud infra bootcamps as a way to up-skill while also having a degree in electrical engineering. I would consider myself adaptable: I've worked in designing/improving electrical hardware, reverse engineering, web, mobile.

I am first-gen American, grew up homeless, but received a world-class education. Sometimes I wonder if I’m on a blacklist somewhere, or if I need to fall further for something to finally click. I guess I’m just having a really long bad luck streak, so here’s to hoping something better is around the corner!

OkayPhysicist 2 hours ago|
Having your friends refuse to refer you and a professor out-right reject a request for letter of rec reeks of there being more to the story.

(More helpfully: when applying for job's you'd be called over-qualified for, just lie. Especially jobs that don't require a degree anyway, just leave it off the resume. Had to do that for a bit during the pandemic slump).

isamuel 1 day ago||
I’m curious (as a recovered alcoholic myself) how you got sober.
gavinray 1 day ago||
I'll be honest, a lot of it was my wife. And also hitting my lowest bottom after becoming homeless and penniless.

So a combination of looking at what I had done to myself + everyone around me and going "what the fuck." and my ever-vigilant wife who knew I had the capacity and desire to get better.

For me it really took literally losing everything.

lawgimenez 8 hours ago|||
I’ve been > 20 years sober. For me it was just music. I’m obsessed with a band who preaches sobriety in their lyrics and lifestyle.
mexicocitinluez 9 hours ago|||
Recovered opiate addict and for me it was a mix of everything: Some advice I had gotten from NA meetings, finally doing something about the other mental health issues I was dealing with, and most importantly: medications that prevented me from using (methadone/suboxone).

It was definitely a process (that included multiple jail stints and only god knows how many treatment centers), but 10 years later life is pretty awesome.

I think the stigma around methadone is causing a ton of harm. Having a program where you quite literally have to show up every day, take drug tests, and get counseling was really important.

gavinray 8 hours ago||
Hell yeah, congrats on 10 years of living actual life.
anthonylevine 7 hours ago||
Thank you!!! I commented too much on my account and have to use my alt-account, but I appreciate that.
stringfood 23 hours ago||
the secret is to hate drinking and never drink
ChrisMarshallNY 23 hours ago||
That would make sense, wouldn't it?

"Just say no"?

Sadly, it doesn't work. If you're an addict, you'll end up manifesting in one way, or many ways. Drugs aren't the only way that it expresses itself.

I hate alcohol. I always have. The taste makes me sick. The best way to ruin a dessert, is to pour expensive booze on it.

That didn't stop me from becoming a prize-winning lush, though.

The thing about addiction, is that it just doesn't make sense. It can't be understood, when looked at, through a rational lens.

That's a big reason that Recovery is difficult. It's also often badly supported by family members, who don't understand the mechanisms.

But that's a long story, for other venues. I am happy to read his story, and sincerely wish him luck.

stringfood 14 hours ago||
I am recovering alcoholic and almost have two years sober but I can only imagine how hard it would be to quit if you loved alcohol, I hated it but was just physically addicted or something, just could not stop it was too fun, I have to use thc only now which has its own issues but will not affect my health in same way as alcohol did. Alcohol is too fun for me and hurts my family a lot
jviotti 23 hours ago||
You are very brave in sharing all of this and you, as anybody else in your position, absolutely deserve a promising second chance. Keep rocking!

Open source has changed the life of so many, from so many situations. We should be proud of our industry. Together we built something beautiful

msteffen 23 hours ago||
> The beginning of the end: The day I bought an Adderall from a classmate. When that amphetamine feeling kicked-in, it was as if life was perfect for the first time. I was happy, confident, felt I could do anything.

You know, I had a similar experience, but in my case I got an appointment with a psychiatrist afterwards, described the experience in detail, was given a computer test, diagnosed with ADHD, and then given a prescription. (Also in my case, I learned Adderall doesn’t actually feel great or help you if you take too much).

Take care of your kids. The war on drugs is stupid. Etc.

mx7zysuj4xew 20 hours ago|
Poor kid just had ADHD and his whole life got ruined tha is to backwards prohibition
Aeolun 21 hours ago||
I feel like US is ridiculously hard on even low grade drugs. Half of my high school would have gone to prison in the US.

Sending a 14 year old convicted of drug crimes anywhere but a location that will help them is bizarre. Sending them to a max security anything leaves me speechless.

squibonpig 18 hours ago||
Yeah I feel like there's less discussion than I expected of how many different things had to be done utterly ass backwards wrong by society for this guy to have his downward spiral in the first place.
deadlocked 14 hours ago||
This is a great story, thanks for sharing.

I have to know: how is your (now wife) doing?

gavinray 8 hours ago|
Thank you for asking. I didn't want to disclose it publicly, but when we met she was in a very bad place in life and actually had a planned suicide date.

It wasn't until years later she told me this.

We were able to send her back to university a second time to study something she is passionate about; she has a great support network of friends and (my) family. (Her family are drug addicts and gang members, so my family has sort of adopted her. It's a bit sad but none of her family were invited to our wedding.)

She's unemployed, but she's trying, and she says she never imagined that she could be so lucky in life.

forkit 18 hours ago||
Is programming underrated art form when it comes to helping people come out of such situations? Addiction or depression.

It easier to get paid, you can be in a flow state for hours. Enough to forget about other addictions. and less likely to be high always while programming

gavinray 8 hours ago||

  > and less likely to be high always while programming
It depends on the drug. If you're an amphetamine/meth addict (or other designer stimulants), you very well might be coding for days on end. I certainly was.

It will even get to the point where you feel dependent on them to focus and "get things done", like being sober is a handicap.

mexicocitinluez 9 hours ago||
Not really.

I'm a recovering addict, felon, and have depression (lucky me). And though there were times where I could work an entire weekend without stopping, it was always followed by 2-3 days of doing absolutely nothing because I was so dope sick/depressed. The worse my addiction got, the shorter the "flow" period and the longer the recovery period took.

akhilsinghcodes 20 hours ago|
Thank you for sharing your story! I wish you continued success. Hope you keep building and keep inspiring
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