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Posted by jjfoooo4 1 day ago

If you are asking for human attention, demonstrate human effort(tombedor.dev)
1463 points | 455 commentspage 5
arjie 19 hours ago|
This is just an old engineering principle of work amplification. For an input of x you shouldn’t routinely do nx. If you do you’ll get flooded. Debounce, throttle, load shed, improve throughput and latency. Lots of solutions. Just map it to the problem and apply.

In the past you had coworker who produced volumes of code. Same principle.

protocolture 17 hours ago||
(Human) Attention is all you need.
flowerthoughts 16 hours ago||
If the requester stops applying common sense, the reviewer has to apply more of it, and there's a finite review budget. I will deal with requests on a lowest review effort-first basis, just like you did on the other side.
keithnz 23 hours ago||
More and more I'm generating AI emails, often to people outside the company and often to do with technical issues / integrations we have / APIs. So far I don't think the people I'm emailing are really using AI as human responses are, well, lacking. What would be great is new email conventions for different communication pathways.

  Human -> Human (think we have this sorted)
  AI -> Human
  AI -> AI


If you are doing AI -> Human, then you need to be curating the response and understanding what it is saying, also, make sure its not leaking internal details or committing you to have phone calls/video chats (it does that). This works really well for the most, and humans respond with requested content. Quite often my AI debugs problems with their systems which I know little about. But humans do odd things like send screen shots of logs rather than text (they also leak internal details of their systems they potentially shouldn't). I used to tell people the content is partly AI, but now I just send the curated email without mentioning AI.

For AI -> AI you kind of want a hand over document as an attachment to an email. Only thing here is making sure there's no injection of security risks. But quite often instead of getting a human response to my AI generated emails, it would actually be nicer to hear from their AI which could give a better context/details. It would be really nice to be able to go, can you have your AI talk to my AI :) (security is a major issue here)

nedt 13 hours ago||
AI is able to read input from AI. Humans are able to read input from humans. Also AI is pretty good in reading input from humans. So we don't really need AI -> AI. Just output for humans and you are fine. You can still attach details and this is true for both AI and humans. So human output should be the goal for everyone and everything.
NopIdoN 22 hours ago|||
tries to pass slop, complains about quality of replies
keithnz 22 hours ago||
? you missed the point, ironically showing the problem with human responses :) humans are super bad at providing information, they concentrate on singular things, especially if they think they have a point / suspect they know what the problem is, but if they are wrong their response doesn't have enough to go on, so you have back and forth.
bluefirebrand 12 hours ago||
If you are trying to do AI -> Human communication you should be publicly flogged. Don't waste people's time with garbage you can't be bothered to write

Just send them the prompt instead, let them see how little effort you care to place into communicating with them

zkmon 14 hours ago||
That's not correct. If human attention requires human effort, that forces human effort all the way down the chain, with no machine output being possible.

You can't say "you can't feed me machine output directly". Machine output is meant to reduce the cognitive load for human processing.

If your colleague is forwarding AI output directly to you, that means they think the AI has reduced the cognitive load for you, and also you are the best person to process that output, instead of them.

You just need to change your perception about the purpose of AI.

sceptic123 13 hours ago||
Or in other words: https://noslopgrenade.com/
frameset 14 hours ago||
I've thought this for a while, and I summarise it as: If you want me to take time to read it, you should take the time to write it.
avmich 18 hours ago||
Why this suddenly becomes urgent? For long time we had automatic emails with "thank you" which weren't written by humans, why something is different today?
vaylian 18 hours ago|
I found these e-mails always impolite. I knew perfectly well, that they were an automated response that only causes work on my end.

But this HN submission also highlights something else: AI content should be labelled. It is not always obvious that an AI has produced a PR.

noobcoder 11 hours ago|
Can you tell if its written by AI or not? I will read it once I get the answer
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