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Posted by jjfoooo4 1 day ago

If you are asking for human attention, demonstrate human effort(tombedor.dev)
1482 points | 457 commentspage 6
maurits 16 hours ago|
I have publicly stated that if you can't be bothered to write, I can't be bothered to read.
sublinear 1 day ago||
I think the real problem is that AI quality falls short of the wild promises.

Labeling what is "AI" would be like highlighting in an email what I'm obligated to say by HR, my boss, etc. It doesn't make anything less boneheaded.

Human effort was already low before AI and now it's even lower. Garbage in, garbage out.

esikich 1 day ago||
I think this is because a lot of people think more is more. Wow look at all the detail and bullet points! No one on the receiving end actually wants that though. When I use AI to write, it's to boil it down to the minimum bits needed. I wish more people would use it that way.
SchemaLoad 1 day ago|||
It's the empty calories of literature. More would be more if there actually was more but AI writing is making it bigger without adding anything actually more. It inserts loads of fluff and repetition that takes longer to read but doesn't exchange more information or ideas.
_carbyau_ 1 day ago|||
Which is why so many people want to see the prompt that generated the text.

Because the prompt is the quintessence of intent regarding the information to be conveyed.

kombookcha 13 hours ago||
I always have a strong hunch that it would be vastly more efficient if they just sent me whatever the prompt was, rather than the output. If you blow 2-3 sentences of intentional information up into a verbose e-mail, you're needlessly wasting both your and my time. Just send me the 2-3 sentences of actual stuff!
skydhash 1 day ago|||
Lossy expansion of information.
HKH2 1 day ago|||
Nah on the receiving end an AI makes a summary of it.
johnsmith1840 1 day ago||
AI having poor quality is a bad take like over a year ago.
folkrav 1 day ago|||
Meh. Just this week, I've had two Sonnet 4.8 agents generate, in parallel, a 2000 line wall of brittle bullshit, and a well architected solution with 20% of the amount of code, to the same problem, from the exact same initial context, and very similar prompts. Come on, they can do poor quality work too.
cwmoore 1 day ago|||
Depending on what you or another means by "quality", it may not have any at all.
huani 10 hours ago||
its the old rule of reciprocity. If you want to receive something, you should match the effort
softwaredoug 11 hours ago||
It's not just about being annoyed - it's very practical.

If the creator exerted human effort, they'll be able to maintain it. They can take responsibility for it. Even if the value of the 100% AI generated artifact is amazing, and the "creator" of it can't actually maintain it, then what's the point?

It's similar to scenarios I've seen where a brilliant ML person comes into an org, trains a model, that seems to solve an important problem. Invariably when that person leaves the org, the ML model stops being used, the team falls back on older / technically worse methods. But the team can be responsible / own it in a way they couldn't the brilliant one-off work.

thinkthatover 8 hours ago||
god whenever I hear/see "genuinely" I get so triggered
erelong 22 hours ago||
> "no"

Sometimes human effort doesm't have to be complicated though (concise communications)

cvoss 10 hours ago||
I once received an internal defect report from my product's QA team. It was long and obvious that what they did was feed the error log into an LLM and ask it to diagnose. It was total nonsense.

I reported it to my manger and stated that I will not have my time wasted this way. She was delighted to have this ammo because we have a long standing beef with our QA for not putting in due diligence. LLMs are like candy for them.

dofm 16 hours ago||
AI generated output is rudeness.

We developers understand this when we are forced to read slop, and most of us recognise it in art and music.

I wonder if we forget that people using unthinking, default interfaces in AI generated apps might start to feel the same way: “it feels like no care was taken here so why should I give it my time?”

altairprime 21 hours ago||
“I forwarded your AI’s email to mine for training and I assume it will be incorporated into future outputs. Appreciate the inputs!”
seriocomic 23 hours ago|
can't believe meatfingers.com has been registered (dormant)...
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