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Posted by thm 8 hours ago

Fox to buy Roku(www.wsj.com)
200 points | 281 commentspage 3
voakbasda 7 hours ago|
If this happens, our Roku TV is going in the trash. They locked out their customers of their own devices by pushing updated firmware that forced agreement to new terms. They lost my trust during that episode, and this move shows that was the right decision.

Meanwhile, Fox lost my respect decades ago. The idea that they could gain network level access to one of my devices cannot be reconciled with my need to feel secure and safe in my own home.

Anyone wanna take the opportunity to share their favorite brands and models of dumb TVs?

bigfishrunning 2 hours ago||
I use a sony projector as my tv -- it's a finicky expensive device, but the picture is good and there's no apps or network connection on it
internet101010 4 hours ago|||
The closest thing you will fine to a dumb tv is a commercial display, which will not be available with the latest OLED, 120hz, etc.

You have to buy a smart TV and disable the internet + external device like Apple TV or Nvidia Shield.

gaws 5 hours ago|||
> Anyone wanna take the opportunity to share their favorite brands and models of dumb TVs?

You can find them in your local Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist region.

999900000999 7 hours ago|||
I think I’m going with a Google TV. I already trust them on my phones anyway.

If you want more control buy a pc monitor and some speakers or commercial display.

riahi 7 hours ago|||
Any but never connect it to the internet and use an appletv
ben4next 4 hours ago||
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Benlovescnn 4 hours ago||
Why do you think reporting and telling the truth is such a bad thing?
ben4next 4 hours ago||
Thats my question. But I don't understand what your truth is?

Was this true? https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/media/cnn-settles-lawsuit-vir...

holistio 5 hours ago||
I remember when Google buying YouTube for $1.6b sounded crazy. And then when then-Facebook Meta bought WhatsApp for 10 times that.

$22b.

Are there any companies left that are not in the decabillion range?

TheCondor 4 hours ago||
That's what I took notice of... About half their revenue is subscription and about half is advertising. 100m users. $220 per home? I would think that's high.

They certianly have enough to ice the carriers out. I wonder what an HBOMax subscription will cost in a year, I bet a fair bit more.

carlosjobim 2 hours ago||
Yes, hundreds of thousands of companies, if you are interested. But you're here.
jm4 2 hours ago||
This is the next MySpace deal.
SG- 7 hours ago||
I wonder how many TV brands that include Roku on their TVs will dump them going forward especially for the non-american markets.
voakbasda 7 hours ago|
Well, I certainly will never buy another one. I doubt I am alone.

Sadly there are enough loyal fanatics that I can imagine they will continue to be sold indefinitely.

carlosjobim 2 hours ago||
Wouldn't somebody who boycotts a company to boycott a different company to boycott a third company be the fanatic in this case?
kgwxd 2 hours ago||
The companies become one after the purchase. That's how purchases work.
carlosjobim 20 minutes ago||
Shouldn't the animosity against Fox be reduced by 50% after the merger? Or is the hacker ethos to just shun everything and then shun shunning?
gdulli 6 hours ago||
I switched from Roku to Xbox for Plex because of how Roku has degraded, and not only did I get the primary benefit of being off Roku, but I found the Xbox Plex app has not been updated to the terrible new redesign so it was a double win.
kpw94 4 hours ago||
I did the opposite switch:

In ~2015 got an Xbox one, as a media center it was an awesome experience:

Kinect voice control to play/pause and other things way before Google home/Amazon echo ecosystem were mature.

Free OTA channels via TV tuner and well designed OneGuide (with ability to pause and rewind).

And of course all the Netflix and other apps, Plex server etc.

But strategically it seems Microsoft decided they wanted to look more like Playstation, focused on gaming (at that time paid Xbox live subscription vs free Playstation)

And as gaws points out, they seem to recently announce to double down on the gaming stuff.

So when they discontinued OneGuide. I picked Roku since they seem to be focused on the media experience primarily... but unsure how I feel about this acquisition news.

gaws 5 hours ago||
With Xbox's planned "reinvention" under the new CEO, consider the Plex app's days on the console numbered.
tiahura 1 hour ago||
Glad that at least one of the Amiga guys finally gets rich.
VeninVidiaVicii 4 hours ago||
Looks like it’s time to cut my TCL-Roku TV off from the internet forever now.
crsv 7 hours ago||
Timed my move from Roku devices to Apple TV just right it appears.
Noaidi 7 hours ago||
Can you get PlutoTV on Apple TV?
sphars 6 hours ago||
According to this[0], yes it's available

[0]: https://support.pluto.tv/s/article/PTV-On-which-devices-can-...

gaws 5 hours ago||
Only a matter of time before enshittification comes for Apple TV.
kgwxd 2 hours ago||
Everyone's finally about to learn why it's dumb as hell to let an app store be built into your display.
ritzaco 4 hours ago|
Are they just following the Succession plot line now?
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