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Posted by leonidasrup 5 hours ago

Swiss parliament lifts ban on new nuclear power plants(www.bluewin.ch)
381 points | 226 commentspage 2
mikaeluman 2 hours ago|
There is no prosperity without stable and cheap energy.

Great news, just hoping the people understand this as well.

Zigurd 3 hours ago||
This is at best the concept of a vibe shift. Even if they started sprinting now, it would be 20 years before anyone would see the results of a nuclear power plant. Nuclear is so much more expensive than solar and wind that building one is certain to raise electricity prices.
dukoid 2 hours ago|
It's why big oil loves it: We need to do nothing now because nuclear is coming "soon"
warumdarum 2 hours ago||
Swiss will get nukes, denmark will get nukes, sweden will get nukes, finland will get..poland, ukraine, germany, armenia, georgia, armenia, turkey, vietnam, japan, south korea, emirates all gonna get, saudi already got.. [this list is incomplete, you can help to complete this list by doing a empire]. Ironically during the cold war a ton of countries went and became almost nuclear powers. Now thos world is so back baby and the reality denial and loud noises do nothing. Almost as if this plot device never had any connection to anything.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p6uxLHWVYRg&t=534s

Arodex 3 hours ago||
A long-form exploration of energy in Switzerland for those interested:

https://www.heidi.news/explorations/black-out-le-talon-d-ach...

arjie 2 hours ago||
They have a pretty small population, but wind will likely be intolerable because it will harm views[0]. Solar requires surface area as well. So that leaves hydro, which they'll have to pump during the summer months to ensure they have coverage for winter, or nuclear. Or fossil fuels, of course. Gas is still probably optimal for them. I suppose that's the nature of things. We all care very much about the climate, but we do care about our views more.

0: I personally like the look of wind turbines but I understand many don't. The appearance is likely why the Trump administration canceled such projects.

bbu 4 hours ago||
that's just lifting the ban and is pure virtue signaling. none of the electricity producers in switzerland actually want build nuclear power plants, because they are way too expensive.
flanked-evergl 4 hours ago|
Much cheaper to outsource all production and industry to China as Europe is doing.
staticshock 2 hours ago||
While I'm sold on the fact that modern nuclear can be built & administered safely in the face of natural disasters, and is a net good environmentally, I'm worried about corporate cronyism's corrosive effects on safety (a la Fukushima) and future instability in the form of cornered animals (e.g. Putin, Trump) acting erratically by bombing civilian infrastructure.
megaman821 1 hour ago||
RemindMe! -20 year
pfannl 3 hours ago||
Keeping the option open seems prudent. The hard part is winter reliability, not summer generation.
firefax 3 hours ago|
One of the little gems the Russians pulled off in the twenty aughts when they were flooding nonprofits in the USA with dirty money was hijacking the green movement to promote fracking. (Because surely ANYTHING is better than those dastardly electrons or whatever the fuck radiation is made of)

Switzerland, unlike the USA, seems capable of safely operating these plants, and with advances in breeder technology new plants doesn't nessecarily mean new mining operations, which often are quite harsh on the surrounding area.

rsync 3 hours ago|
“Switzerland, unlike the USA, seems capable of safely operating these plants …”

I would have said that about the Japanese as well…

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