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Posted by surprisetalk 5 days ago

Dostoyevsky isn't difficult(www.autodidacts.io)
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weinzierl 2 days ago|
Dostoevsky published many of his novels in installments in journals. Being easy to read and hooking the reader in was a basic requirement for his writing to be successful.
blueblazin 2 days ago||
Not difficult, just boring.
nilirl 2 days ago||
As someone who only gets time to read when tired at the end of the day: I can't get past the first 50 pages of any Dostoyevsky work.

Why are the classics classic? I doubt being a great read is sufficient or necessary; I struggle to read most classics, Dickens being the only exception.

I'm not reading to study, I want to be entertained! I want engagement, I want clarity, I want suspense! I don't want to wrestle with the author's intentions, I want to be gripped by the character and their situation.

ventana 2 days ago||
If you still want to give the Russian literature a try, maybe Bulgakov? A little bit more modern (early 20th century); "A Young Doctor's Notebook" is probably what you are looking for in terms of engagement, clarity, suspense, and size as well (those are short stories). English translations I looked at are good enough to my taste.
nilirl 2 days ago||
Ok, I've added "A Young Doctor's Notebook" to my list. Thanks!

Funnily enough, I'm currently reading a book by a Russian author. 'Metro 2033' by Dmitry Glukhovsky. It's post-apocalyptic and set in the Moscow subway.

fuidani 2 days ago||
I agree with all your points on why you should read... in fact I loved Crime & Punishment exactly for those reasons

I think its ok not to like Dostoyevsky, de gustibus - but you are implying that people read him to feel smart or that they need to put a great amount of effort in reading... great books have an healing effect even when tired and at the end of the day...

nilirl 2 days ago||
> but you are implying that people read him to feel smart or that they need to put a great amount of effort in reading

Yes, I did imply that. Maybe my experiences have been more challenging than I expected.

Ok, I will try Crime & Punishment again. I really do want to have that feeling of reading something great.

ks2048 2 days ago||
This rings a bell, because I decided to tackle Don Quixote (English translation). At 200 pages in (of around 1000, I think), it’s funny and entertaining and feels fresh.
stevenwoo 2 days ago|
Many of the subplots have been reused for entire romance movies, and lots of the mini adventures would not be out of place in something like Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia, as odd as that sounds.
rceDia 2 days ago||
Delved into Russian literature during the "pandemic years". Reading "Crime and Punishment" was definitely the latter but used a study guide to assist (read guide after reading the book chapter). Then the "Brothers..." followed by other authors Turgenev "Fathers and Sons" and Tolstoy's "The Resurrection". Many lessons to learn by these brilliant writers.
mikrl 2 days ago||
The death of Ivan Ilyich by Tolstoy is bleak, humane and fairly short. I enjoyed it like a good Charles Dickens
generuso 1 day ago||
It is uncontroversial among Dostoyevsky's scholars that his main focus is on Russian mysticism while the stories themselves are merely a setting for presenting author's theology. But that may be flying over the head of a typical Western reader. Even for Russian schoolchildren this requires to be carefully explained.

Dostoyevsky subtly advocates that Western rationalism, materialism, and utopian socialism lead to failure, and only spiritual communion of people bound together by love and Orthodox faith can give hope. This idea of specialness of "messianic Russian soul" and of Orthodoxy is extremely in vogue today in modern Russian ideology. But that is a different subject.

noja 2 days ago||
Will Poulter (yes, him) has a very good Crime & Punishment audiobook.
throw4847285 2 days ago|
Doesn't surprise me at all. He's really a character actor who happens to look like he does. Similar to Dan Stevens, who coincidentally, has some great Agatha Christie audiobooks. He does all the voices.
scrame 2 days ago||
That's funny, I recognized the name, but had to look him up and went "oh yeah, eyebrows guy!".

The kid who played Joffrey on game of thrones also always came across as a very smart, thoughtful kid, he just played an intensely hateable character. Similar to the actor who played Marlo in The Wire, I saw him host an actors roundtable and had to blink twice "wow, one of the scariest villains in a gritty show is actually this cheerful, charismatic guy.

I don't think all actors are smart, and I certainly think some actors think they are smarter than they are, but I don't think being smart hurts if you're an actor.

sharts 2 days ago|
IMO The Russians were always more of a joy to read than English and Americans
_doctor_love 2 days ago||
A read I enjoyed in college was Ada, or Ardor by Nabokov.
rayiner 2 days ago||
No, too much emotion.
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