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Posted by arunc 3 hours ago

Anthropic updates their terms to verify age or identity(www.anthropic.com)
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kps 2 hours ago|
If Anthropic develops an AGI, it'll be too young to use any Anthropic services.
ACCount37 2 hours ago|
If it's an actual AGI, it'll figure out how to use a fake ID and the face of Sam Porter Bridges to bypass the age checks.

Now I can't help but imagine a mildly annoyed AGI buying yet another fake identity to deal with yet another KYC check, because those stupid humans are inherently racist and just can't help themselves but keep demanding "proof of flesh".

ryanisnan 2 hours ago||
This feels deeply problematic. I would much prefer, where asked via appropriate legal processes, Anthropic serve over user data to government officials, and potentially suspend access.
pants2 2 hours ago||
Is this new news?

> This policy was published on June 8, 2026 with an effective date of July 8, 2026

scrollop 2 hours ago|
Seems it has started already:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1ucu6og/any_solut...

pants2 1 hour ago||
That has been going on for a while AFAIK
MisterKent 1 hour ago||
If Fable is only for US citizens, presumably that will apply to enterprises as well.

I used fable on some difficult stuff and it was surprisingly good.

It's safe to say that models aren't going to get worse.

Does that mean: US citizens will get an edge in hireability?

Assuming: 1. Non-US companies can't keep up Or 2. That model improvements continue to convince management of productivity improvements

swader999 1 hour ago||
How does open router work then if we just go through that?
colechristensen 1 hour ago||
>Does that mean: US citizens will get an edge in hireability?

In the present situation any company using Fable will present a tremendous difficulty because only defense contractors are accustomed to handling export controls.

We're still guessing but if Fable is made available again with the export controls intact, something as little as discussing the usage of Fable to a non-"US Person" (i.e. green card or citizen) in the cubicle next to yours could be a crime punishable with sizable fines and even jailtime. They'll certainly be negotiating this down or trying their best to reduce the scope of what's considered a violation. Export controls are no joke and what's considered "export" can be positively tiny.

It's enforced the way you'd wish HIPAA were.

dvduval 2 hours ago||
We’ve been in sort of a golden age where massive money is getting pulled in and consumers are getting a great deal. That’s not going to last, and surely surveillance and personal information are going to fit into the formula for success for these companies. It’s very similar to when Google was a brand new search engine.
ieie3366 2 hours ago|
Consumers don't use claude. they use free slop models. claude token usage is something like 98% professional users using it for work
petcat 2 hours ago||
US regulations on AI is going to make it more and more difficult for EU/UK/everyone else to access these model providers.

At this point it's completely outgrageous that the EU, UK, or even Canada can't put forth the funding to develop their own local AI model industry.

Tangurena2 1 hour ago||
US regulations/laws are hostile enough that the EU is looking to distance themselves from all US software, hosting & cloud providers. This administration has shown that they're quite willing to stab every other nation in the back on a whim.

> As tensions between President Donald Trump and Europe continue to simmer, the continent is accelerating its moves to reduce its addiction to US technology. Cities and governments are ditching Microsoft Office for open-source alternatives, shifting to European cloud hosting for local AI, and moving defense data to systems without American involvement. Nowhere has this been more clear than in France.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-eu-is-going-through-a-trump-...

> The Netherlands blocked a U.S. company from buying a Dutch firm that handles its national ID system, saying it would create a “threat to the public interest.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/09/technology/solvinity-kynd...

smotched 2 hours ago|||
Its not a government issue in those counties, the US government didnt fund anthopic, openai, etc.
epolanski 2 hours ago|||
We don't have the right incentives to attract the right talent and capital. Plain and simple.
lenerdenator 2 hours ago|||
It's not that they can't, it's that it's

1) not a priority

2) expensive as hell

The amounts of capital sunk into AI model creation and service is truly mind-boggling. It also comes with the implication that it'll recoup investment by slashing jobs. For better or worse, those are hard sells in the countries you mentioned.

thewebguyd 1 hour ago||
> For better or worse, those are hard sells in the countries you mentioned.

For good reasons, sometimes. The "all automation is good automation" sentiment on places like HN isn't shared as widely outside this tech bubble. There are very real concerns with historical precedent that only those at the top will benefit from the automation, which is overall bad for society (unless you're a hardcore capitalist and/or one of said capital owners).

For better or for worse, not all nations subscribe to the competition treadmill.

gib444 2 hours ago||
We'll talk to China
Rooster61 2 hours ago||
[Dupe]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48618455
wren6991 2 hours ago||
That's fine, I already cancelled my subscription after they admitted to using PEFT to selectively and silently make their models dumber when working in certain technical fields.

[ref: section 1.5 of Mythos/Fable 5 system card, https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/d00db56fa754a1b115b6dd7cb2e3c3...]

Maybe that was petty, but I was already looking for alternatives after the obvious angling for increased regulation and suppression of local models. LLMs are software and I want to modify them and run them on hardware that I own.

paulcole 2 hours ago||
What did you switch to?
wren6991 1 hour ago||
GLM-5.2 meets my needs for "thinky" tasks, which for me is code and documentation reviews, technical chats and rubber ducking. (I've tried agentic coding and gone back to writing by hand; besides ethical and skill atrophy concerns, I mostly do hardware design and have not been satisfied with any model's RTL output.) API rates are cheaper than Haiku, with benchmarks around Opus 4.6. I've managed to run GLM-5.2 at home, very slowly, but still neat that this is possible. I personally find it less grating to talk to than Opus.

I use a local Qwen3.6-35B-A3B (@ Q4_K_XL) for my documentation search harness. It works well for its assigned task, which is:

- I dump in a bucket of PDFs and/or source code.

- I ask a question.

- Qwen greps, fuzzy-searches, views rendered PDF pages to check diagrams, possibly gives up and reads everything, and possibly gives up on that too and writes its own scraper with PyMuPDF in a Pyodide sandbox.

- Qwen gives me an answer consisting mostly of citations and links back into the source material.

This approach with local Qwen can extract useful answers from the Armv9-A manual, which at 17k pages is possibly too big for any context window. Qwen has just enough knowledge baked in to know what to search for and understand what it's looking at. A more knowledgeable model would be a waste because even Fable makes shit up, and I want citations, not hallucinations.

DeepSeek v4 Flash gets an honourable mention: somehow all three of fast, capable and cheap. Zero-data-retention providers are available for both GLM-5.2 and DSv4F. I trust OpenRouter ZDR about as much as I trust Anthropic ZDR, since I can audit neither.

Overall I don't miss my Claude subscription, but take what I say with a grain of salt. I was just a Pro subscriber, not a heavy user like some other folks here.

beiburg 2 hours ago||
Can you please elaborate?
Terr_ 2 hours ago||
Probably this stuff which caused backlash:

https://www.wired.com/story/anthropic-responds-to-backlash-o...

beej71 2 hours ago|
Maybe they can look at my credit history and see that it's over 18.
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