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Posted by alanwreath 7 hours ago

Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors(www.bloomberg.com)
https://archive.ph/DI4Cq
543 points | 288 commentspage 4
snootypoot 6 hours ago|
amazing, the same company that says people should not be allowed to repair their own vehicles. henry ford is rolling in his grave.
skywhopper 6 hours ago||
The folks who make the decision to throw away these engineers in the first place are the ones who should be laid off.
edoceo 6 hours ago||
Nice thing about the C-suite is that you get authority and compensation without responsibility. You just claim responsibility when things are good. And when bad, the underlings who have responsibilities but no authority take the heat.
LNSY 6 hours ago||
And this is why the C-suite is the single best target for replacement by AI.
LNSY 6 hours ago||
The only job AI's are capable are doing is the role of executive. I think we should replace every C-Suiter with AI.
idontwantthis 6 hours ago||
I hope those engineers made Ford pay out the nose.
zuzululu 6 hours ago|
They did not. I been saying for decades that software devs form a union.

It's just so strange any other profession have unions or bodies that protect their job against this sort of practice.

if software devs were lawyers then AI would've been banned

cbg0 6 hours ago||
You can negotiate your salary even without a union. Also being part of a union doesn't guarantee you won't be laid off because of AI.
breakpointalpha 6 hours ago||
A union absolutely can and should protect workers from frivolous layoffs.

If the company tries to layoff 10% "due to AI" the remaining 90% can strike.

History is full of union solidarity vs idiotic management.

gorbachev 6 hours ago||
So...don't buy any Ford vehicles designed and/or manufactured in the last 8 months or so?
flowerthoughts 6 hours ago||
I wonder which of the management consulting companies caused this fire/rehire experiment.
dessimus 5 hours ago|
It's not like those consultants recommended something the CEO and Board didn't want to hear. They are paid to be the shield that blocks the arrows from shareholders. If they can get paid twice, once to recommend laying off 350 engineers and again to later recommend refilling 350 engineers all the better.
nova22033 6 hours ago||
Were these engineers fired and replaced with AI? Article implies they brought back retired engineers.
prescriptivist 6 hours ago||
Sorry but this reeks of marketing. To what extent was Ford actually attempting to replace these engineers with AI tools in the last three years or were they just letting them go by attrition? Was this the result of an actual AI influenced layoff? I read both the Verge and the Bloomberg piece and none of this seems to be articulated but it sure does seem to capture a vibe right now that companies are footgunning themselves all over the place with LLMs, despite no evidence of this being related to any of that...
mhurron 6 hours ago||
350 of how many laid off? If 350 is a fraction of the total replaced with AI that's going to be counted as a win for AI reducing costs, they just were a little to ambitious with the initial round. That'll be counted as a learning experience because we're early in the replace people with unintelligent tools process.
wartywhoa23 5 hours ago||
I hope those engineers demanded 2x higher salaries this time.
K0balt 6 hours ago|
This is exactly the idiotic use case of AI coming back to bite them.

The short sighted gains (and I’ll assume that they are chasing quarterlies as usual) are to be had by firing most of the junior engineers, keeping the seniors because with AI they can n* their productivity.

Basically you can fire 2x junior engineers for every senior engineer you keep. But the senior engineers are the keystone here, and without juniors eventually becoming senior engineers you’ll eventually be screwed.

But, that’s a problem for the -next- c-suite gang… so…

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