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Posted by bilsbie 2 days ago

The 'papers, please' era of the internet will decimate your privacy(expression.fire.org)
1136 points | 603 commentspage 4
Kuyawa 1 day ago|
There is absolutely no privacy on the internet, Snowden told us 13 years ago but we all forgot.

The government already knows everything about us, and I mean everything. It is extremely naive to think they don't or that you are safe behind a VPN.

Retric 1 day ago||
The government is largely incompetent about proactively sifting through vast amounts of information for relevant bits.

That’s minimal defense, but it’s worth remembering the difference between what it in theory knows and what its actually paying attention to.

xboxnolifes 1 day ago|||
If they already know everything, why is there always a push toward adding friction to the process they already know everything about?
wartywhoa23 1 day ago||
Alreadists don't treat such questions as answer-worthy.
wartywhoa23 1 day ago|||
If they already know, why all the fuss about ID enforcement?
cucumber3732842 1 day ago||
There is a difference between the NSA knowing and being every petty burocrat being a trivial administrative subpoena away from everything.
Varelion 1 day ago||
I am torn. I have bore first-hand witness to the scale of the PsyOps war waged on the American people by institutions near and far. Artroturfing to sew division to one means of another.

In all these operations, anonymity is what drives it.

I was born and raised in the anonymous internet, and tasted its freedoms. I oppose censorship. But, at this point, I have come to wonder it it would be best to always have your real-life personality attached to all you do. At least to any action that feeds an algorithm or creates something someone else can see.

It is the nature of the internet that you could never achieve absolute censorship -- and maybe anonymity should belong to the hackers and tinkers with the will and drive to hunt and craft for it.

I do not like holding this opinion, because it feels as though it is on the similar boat as that of those who 'pull up the ladder after themselves'. Increasingly, I see it as pulling shut the trapdoors to hell.

breakpointalpha 1 day ago||
The day reddit asks me to upload an ID to shitpost about the NBA is the day I stop using reddit.
monssooon 1 day ago||
Haha stop already friend
izacus 1 day ago||
You don't need to sell this THAT hard.
clickety_clack 2 days ago||
This was in part caused by the general public’s comfort with federated identity for OAuth. If everyone already has one anyway (the thinking may go), why not mandate it?
ahmedehab_01 1 day ago||
The sad thing is that any actual bad actor will find a way to circumvent this, but it will just invade your privacy and lead to a worse Cambridge Analytica-style breach of privacy.
papersplz84 1 day ago||
If they wanted to verify your age or that you are a real person with ID/selfie it could always be done on device locally to respect privacy which of course they don't because its not about that I even googled just now and see is solutions for this like PrivateID
epsteingpt 1 day ago||
it is the fight, but the game is already over.

what do people think the billions of billions of pattern matching used in ads will be used for?

people think 'anonymous' credentialing will work here?

they've captured scroll patterns, typing patterns, language patterns, all sorts of fingerprinting.

the game unfortunately is basically already over.

sdfsdfsd3443f 1 day ago|
Unrelated, but you remind me of how absolutely useless ad technology is. The literal second I cross the border into Spain on holiday all I see is completely Spanish ads for stuff I never heard of and aren't even appropriate for my gender. This is for a ten year old YT account that basically knows everything there is to know about me. Even when I continue and look for English videos they keep shoving Spanish bullshit into my face.

Even at home I still get ads for music festivals, shoes and toothpaste, none of which are withing a thousand yards of my personal preference. The times I saw an ad for mechanical keyboards, interesting APIs, IDEs etc I can count on literally one hand and that's being online for decades.

iPhones' builtin autocomplete, Netflix and Spotify's recommendations all have robbed me of the illusion that smart people are actually working on this problem. If they are, it ain't working. The money printer works but not because of clever tech. YT's ad tech basically boils down to a geolocation of IP and I sometimes even question that.

felooboolooomba 1 day ago||
Meta has spent $2B lobbying for Age Verification Tech: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47410870
jjgreen 1 day ago||
Sounds better in German: https://mises.org/mises-wire/papiere-bitte-papers-please
andrewlin247 2 days ago|
privacy online is already largely gone
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