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Posted by cemdervis 10 hours ago

The case for physical media ownership(dervis.de)
299 points | 203 commentspage 5
rich_sasha 6 hours ago|
I think DRM is frankly a lot more of a consumer education/rights thing than some kind of outright evil.

Buy a DVD for X, or "own" a DRM version for Y<X - why not. It's a bargain I'm happy to strike, or at least I appreciate the option.

The issue starts when:

- vendors don't make it clear that they can pull the rug

- or indeed can pull the rug for no reason. A bank can close my bank account, but not for no reason - and they can't hold on to my money just because. It should be the same with DRM-protected assets

- people don't understand the tradeoff they're making. It's like complaining about reckless overspending in credit cards leading to insane interest. Yes, it's partly to do with the product, equally credit cards totally have their use when used responsibly, and a healthy society has people understanding the differences.

ermantrout 9 hours ago||
My ps3 disc reader os broken and the only games i can play are digital games. At anyppint they can shut down the servers and the game that i boight wont be available anymore
andai 9 hours ago||
https://xkcd.com/1150/
markhahn 4 hours ago||
If you can't hack it, you don't own it.
functionmouse 8 hours ago||
I don't like this sentiment. There's plenty of things you can hold but you don't really own. You're probably holding one right now!
Rohansi 8 hours ago||
There are also things you can hold and not own!
CharlesW 8 hours ago||
[Deleted note about submitter editorializizing title]
cemdervis 8 hours ago||
For transparency: That was the previous title of the page. I since changed many things on that site and reworded some fluff. Cheers.
lIl-IIIl 4 hours ago||
Good examples, but this one didn't make sense to me:

>Scott Pilgrim vs. the World: The Game disappeared from Xbox and PlayStation stores in December 2014 when a license expired. Players campaigned for years before a remastered edition arrived in 2021.

I mean, physical stores can also stop selling a certain game. Existing sold games were unaffected. Why does this matter?

scuderiaseb 6 hours ago||
As they say, piracy is the only true ownership.
teekert 8 hours ago||
And if you can hold it, sometimes you still don’t own it.
hmokiguess 2 hours ago||
Now let’s apply this to money and digital finance
JumpinJack_Cash 5 hours ago|
The sad thing is that it's also true for money.

Cash that you can hold in your hand it's yours, whereas the cash that you own at the bank is a IOU subject to the contract that you sign .

nik282000 4 hours ago|
Cash in hand can be rendered equally worthless by an adverserial government that drives down its value by printing more.
JumpinJack_Cash 2 hours ago||
That's true but not instantaneously , but I get your point.

Gasoline, diesel, bullets, firearms, explosives, water, canned food, lubricants, soil, seeds are the only thing that are truly yours and cannot be taken from you or diluted into irrelevance

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