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Posted by sambellll 23 hours ago

HackerRank open sourced its ATS. My resume scored 90/100. Oh wait 74. No – 88(danunparsed.com)
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quink 20 hours ago|
"A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision."
12_throw_away 7 hours ago|
Corollary: If a computer makes a business decision, the person who delegated the decision to the computer must be held accountable.

Consequence: All business decisions will eventually be delegated to computers via sufficiently convoluted and untraceable processes such that no manager can ever be held accountable.

zameermfm 9 hours ago||
Stop the qtip when there's resistance
jackjd 13 hours ago||
I've done similar things and used GitHub Copilot to scan a folder of 40 CVs and rate them -> I then review the top 10 CVs and comment on every rating whether I agree or disagree and why -> I then asked AI to re-rate all the CVs according to my comments. -> I then reviewed all the CVs against their ratings; the AI did a much better job for that 2nd round after its learnings.

It took more time than if I just reviewed the 40 CVs myself, but that was an experiment, and I think it shows the AIs can be trained on your comments. And if there is enough training and a good knowledge system that allows AI to apply the learning in those trainings, it can eventually become a lot more accurate at this task?

nikolay 8 hours ago||
Roll the dice, HR folks!
kdavis 8 hours ago||
Hmm...six runs with gemma3:12b on my CV

- Varies from 102.0/100 to 100.0/100

- Missed lots of OSS work

- Misinterprets GSoC work (Thinks projects I started that were contributed to in GSoC implies that I received a GSoC stipend)

- Areas for improvement seem to vary inconsistently (There's not enough project detail to there's too much project detail)

I still don't make company cut offs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

kdavis 7 hours ago|
Using gemma3:12b I ran it once over Andrew Ng's CV https://ai.stanford.edu/~ang/curriculum-vitae.pdf because why not.

He's a 48.0/100, things that make you go Hmmm.

wielebny 13 hours ago||
This seems like extremely illegal in Europe.
padolsey 16 hours ago||
This is just the 'LLM judge', very badly implemented without any scientific prudence. What a joke. To be terse: you cannot rely on LLMs to provide standardized scores against arbitrary criteria. To get close to 'reliable' you would need highly tested rubrics, grounded in human decision-making, and you'd need to avoid all the measurement biases these things are riddled with... positional/order effects, anchoring on whatever numbers you stuffed into your own prompt, scale-format sensitivity (a 1–5 and an A–E scale give different answers for the same input), holistic-vs-isolated context effects, and lovely examples like where adding a "be unbiased" instruction makes it more biased. I've studied this at length. You cannot even _begin_ to approach this problem seriously without held-out validation, inter-rater agreement, and ground truth. This repo is just quagmire of wishful vibes with random numbers littered throughout.
jdw64 17 hours ago||
It seems like the design is flawed, probably because the scoring structure and conditions are wrong. And originally, due to the nature of LLMs, even if the input is unstructured, when you design something like a RAG system, you usually need to create a verifiable evidence table. Even with that, the scores are still probabilistic by nature, but at least they stay within an error distribution that I can verify. But it doesn't seem like there's any such evaluation criteria here.

Typically, retrieval should be tied to evaluation metrics, evidence should be linked to scores, and you also need to account for parsing errors.

But personally, I'm weak to these kinds of ATS systems (ugly appearance, non-native English speaker, didn't go to a good university), so if this kind of filtering existed, I probably would have never had a job in my entire life. Come to think of it, even now I don't have a proper job—I just bid on projects at the lowest price and implement them. So maybe it doesn't really matter whether such a system exists or not

brikym 19 hours ago||
So that's where the Windows XP file copy dialog author now works.
nnevatie 16 hours ago|
> An LLM is called

Hooray for incidental non-determinism.

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