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Posted by sbochins 1 day ago

The Kimi K3 Moment(stephen.bochinski.dev)
417 points | 441 commentspage 4
_pdp_ 1 day ago|
20 years ago we used to pay a lot for things that are now practically free. I don't think AI is an exception.
singpolyma3 1 day ago|
We also used to get for free things that people now routinely pay for. Remember maps mash ups?
arberx 1 day ago||
> I think I can see where this goes. The government will try to regulate AI and open source in particular, and it will run the playbook it ran for the auto industry. Decades of subsidies, bailouts, and protective tariffs produced American carmakers that sell trucks at home and barely register anywhere else in the world.

Here's the thing about this though, the auto industry directly employed hundreds of thousands of people.

The AI labs are small, only few benefit directly from their wealth and there's already immense opposition to AI, data centers, etc...

richardfey 1 day ago||
Has anyone tried Kimi K3 against gpt-5.6-sol on real projects?
teaearlgraycold 1 day ago||
In my experience GLM 5.2 is a pretty good Opus replacement. But K3 has not given me an experience on par with Sol or Fable. The price/intelligence ratio might still make sense. But it’s not very inspiring when it comes to my real world tasks. I’m doing pretty mundane web stuff.
mbgerring 21 hours ago||
I cannot imagine wanting the product of the entire intellectual output of humanity since recorded history to be an expensive, paywalled commercial product owned by 5 or so of the most insufferable, detestable people who ever lived. Why would you want to live in that world. We should all be rooting for open source AI to win.
ChrisArchitect 1 day ago||
Related:

Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48935342

Kimi K3, and what we can still learn from the pelican benchmark

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48947717

johnbarron 1 day ago||
Its worthwhile to have a quote from the article as some comment without reading:

"...I’ve been running Kimi K3 alongside Claude on my normal coding work, and for all practical purposes I can’t tell them apart. Same tasks, same quality of output, and near identical token counts to get there. I expected an open model to be sloppier or to grind through more tokens on the way to the same answer, and neither turned out to be true.

The prices are nowhere near each other. K3’s API runs $3 per million input tokens and $15 per million output. Claude’s top model costs $10 and $50 for the same units. The subscription side is even more lopsided..."

api 23 hours ago||
The dumb efforts by the US AI industry to use fear mongering for regulatory capture will hand dominance to China and others.

In a few years there will be Mythos level open weight models hosted by the lowest bidder anyway.

jdthedisciple 23 hours ago|
> In a few years there will be Mythos level open weight

At the rate things are moving I'd expect that to happen much sooner.

In fact: Somebody, right now as we speak, is most likely already working on training the next best open source model.

I just thought about that recently too, then Kimi K3 came out, and I thought: Yea, I'm not surprised. Just a matter of time now...

shintoist 1 day ago|
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perching_aix 1 day ago|
Doesn't read like AI writing whatsoever.
fwipsy 1 day ago||
I don't know. You can't just rely on looking for em dashes or other obvious tells because anyone who cares can get the AI to avoid those.

> When the headline model on your plan can be switched off because the economics don’t work, the plan was never really selling you the headline model. Kimi’s tiers don’t come with that asterisk.

This line has a certain smug, punchy cleverness that I associate with AI. To me, the vibes are ~30% AI writing.

perching_aix 21 hours ago||
> You can't just rely on looking for em dashes or other obvious tells

I didn't.

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