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Posted by speckx 6 hours ago

Long presumed dead, a thriving coral reef is discovered in West Africa(e360.yale.edu)
https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/marine-science/articles...
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F7F7F7 5 hours ago|
The biodiversity in West Africa in general is completely underrated. I mean, Darwin solidified his trajectory in life a few short days after the Beagle anchored off of Cape Verde (a place he initially detested then fell in love with).

I'm hoping that Cape Verde's World Cup success story translates to more eye balls on stories like this (with the mere mention of the country landing it in search results). Which means more attention, money and research to West Africa's relatively fragile but diverse ecosystem.

SparkyMcUnicorn 4 hours ago||
This source appears to have more images and info: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/marine-science/articles...
dang 2 hours ago|
We'll put that link in the toptext as well. Thanks!
bix6 3 hours ago||
For the coral lovers. There are multiple companies working on reef preservation. They are woefully under resourced. If you can help, please do.
xandrius 1 hour ago||
You should give some names if you personally know them.
bix6 1 hour ago||
I work with Hybrid Reefs out of Scripps in San Diego. Daniel is an amazing dude, Moore fellow, and prolific inventor. If you can help, there’s contact info on the website. https://www.hybridreefs.com/

Coral Vita is the trailblazer in the for profit category, first coral Series A (2025). I don’t know them yet though. https://www.coralvita.co

https://coral.org is a 501c3. One of my friends is on the board.

Other fun stuff.

Mars runs one of the most prolific programs: https://www.buildingcoral.com/

Reefstarter was backed by my friends at SOSV. They design coastal barriers. Great team. East coast for any of you Floridians. https://www.reefstarter.net/

There’s more but there’s a few off the top.

In general the US is primarily focused on erosion control since the beaches are disappearing. Coral is more an afterthought especially with the gutting of all our science. Australia is really leading the way here with AIMS and Saudi has KAUST. Big ups to the Paul Allen Foundation though, they gave Scripps $10M a few years back.

Fun stat to end with: coral reefs are responsible for over $10T in annual economic value. They get less than $1B a year to ensure they stick around. We’re gonna change that.

bluebarbet 13 minutes ago||
The irony surely being that the "economic value" here supposedly worth $10T is, ultimately, the very cause of their undoing (human economic activity is somewhat directly correlated with environmental destruction). Personally I'd prefer to live in a world where we saved coral reefs for their own sake and not for their economic value.

Still, it's a detail. Well done for the amazing work you're doing. We all depend on people like you and the organizations you mention.

Aboutplants 2 hours ago||
I’ve always been curious as to the level of success these programs achieve compared to just letting nature respond on its own. There are many cases where “dead” areas come back to life with abundance and give me pause as to whether we should for the most part just get out of natures way.
bix6 2 hours ago|||
Here’s one successful example that only worked because of human intervention: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/03/240308123248.h...

They can only survive short duration events. At some point the temp and time is too much and they die. The only way they come back is reintroduction.

We’ve lost over 50% of the reefs and are expected to lose 90% by 2050.

There are many amazing solutions. Some use corals more resistant to heat stress. Australia has seen some promising results with seed boxes. I know of a few other amazing solutions currently in the lab.

We have already gotten in natures way. So now we need to help nature with our technology.

lukan 11 minutes ago||
"So now we need to help nature with our technology."

I guess the best help, would be stop getting into natures way so brutally, but since transforming the whole industry takes time and making people aware and care is even harder, some technical solutions to offset some damage is of course welcome.

phkahler 1 hour ago||||
I recall reading that the corals can reproduce both sexually and by cloning, with most in nature using cloning. The researchers brought them back to a lab and bred a bunch of them and found a lot of offspring could thrive in the warmer more acidic water, so they wanted to reintroduce them to a reef (or maybe they had). Been a while but it was interesting. Not sure what it takes to shift away from cloning in nature, but waiting for most the reef to die off seems backwards ;-)
bix6 1 hour ago||
One major issue though is diversity. Many coral gardeners use fragments to clone one type over and over.
bryanrasmussen 43 minutes ago||||
I would suppose getting out of nature's way happens in one of two ways - infrequently because there is nothing of value in an area left to extract so people leave it alone, or infrequently because there is regulation forcing people to leave it alone.
bamboozled 48 minutes ago|||
Homeostasis, that was probably an option for most of nature in the 1950s or something, I think the damage is too great to just leave the reefs, forrests and other habitats to "fend for themselves". Even if what you say is true from an environmental perspective, we also have to fight to protect these areas from exploitation from fisherman, mining etc.
bix6 42 minutes ago||
Yep you’ll see most stats base off ~1950. This is when we started noticing and especially in the ensuing decades as SCUBA equipment got good.
novia 5 hours ago||
> Zinzindohoué agrees: “We don’t need to wait for others to come to our country to show us what is under our sea. We are the ones who must take responsibility.
wildfireday2 3 hours ago|
Yet, they didn’t.

And for those commenting about risk from tourism, this is mesophotic coral at 175 feet. It’s out of range of recreational scuba much less shallow-reef snorkelers. Only technical divers can reach this reef. That’s why it hadn’t even been explored for all this time.

paulhebert 1 hour ago||
Isn’t this whole article about how they’re doing so right now?
ck2 3 hours ago||
vaguely related I read a fascinating story the other day about basically garbage dumping of leftover oyster/clam shells being used to re-seed a marine ecosystem off the Florida Keys

* https://www.yahoo.com/news/science/articles/florida-dumped-h...

soperj 3 hours ago|
they were doing that in New York as well if I'm not mistaken
Jtsummers 3 hours ago||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion_Oyster_Project - Different effort, this one is about putting out living oysters, not just shells as GP was talking about.

And to be clear, in GP's link, living oysters do show up, but they weren't put there deliberately (the shells and every other development provided the larvae with places to grow and establish themselves). The NY project started with oyster larvae placed on discarded shells to deliberately create the new environment with an oyster population.

yieldcrv 4 hours ago||
reading all those easily solved frictions they encountered was sad
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