And I have evidence that anthropic distills from openai, moonshot, alibaba etc. So unless anthropic holds itself to the standard they're implying should be followed, why should I care others did to them as they do unto others? Seems like a nothing burger. Has the same vibe as a bully crying foul because they got hit back. Also, if distillation is what got K3 to where it is, why is it better in many areas? Also, big fucking kudos to k3 team for putting this together do fast givne how new fable access is, if it is true and had a meaningful impact. The real story there for me becomes one of extreme competence.

Seems like an advert for K3 to me.

Fable level performance, for much lower price.

But really, this is the USA getting ready to bring AI companies completely under the control of the Trump administration for ‘national security’

Do you by chance also have information about Anthropic's training data sources?

I think they deserve, by Justice, to have their models pillaged and raped, just like they did to the internet. They didn't ask for permission when they took the entire of the internet, after all, and given their behaviour is nefarious, it's of Justice that they receive nefarious treatment by others, including chinese AI labs.

The Chinese are not gonna deterred, but the posturing by the Americans is so blatantly hypocritical that everybody is cheering for their demise. See, for example, one of Francis Fukuyama's latests videos on youtube.

I don't know what purpose these "they copied us" crying is ever going to achieve. Europeans stole Chinese silk worms. US stole European books, looms and rocket scientists. Who cares? Be grateful you've got people inventing stuff worth copying.

Watching the tenants of intellectual gatekeeping bang up against the inevitable paradoxes of late stage capitalism - a spectacle worthy of jiffy pop.

People who built a business model around stealing other peoples stuff are vewy, vewy upset that someone has built a business model around stealing their stuff.

Oh no! Anyway.....

“If you can’t compete with them, get them banned”

- US AI companies

if its that simple, why doesn’t Anthropic just distill its own models and release Fable 5.1, 5.2, ...?

Do I, as a paying user, own the output the LLM has produced or am I merely licensing the output?

Most paying users assume ownership, in which case I’ll do with that output what I want.

If the LLM outputs are not owned by the user, but are actually licensed, please clarify the terms of commercial use.