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Posted by speerer 5 hours ago

Delayed Gratification – Proud to Be 'Last to Breaking News'(www.slow-journalism.com)
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rdmuser 3 hours ago|
They had their 15th birthday late last year: https://www.slow-journalism.com/delayed-gratification-magazi...

If you feel interested in following them but it feels too high traffic or chaotic you can follow specific categories with rss by just going to subcategories on the website and adding /feed to the end of the url. Even slower journalism!

For example I follow the long reads one: https://www.slow-journalism.com/filter/long-reads/feed

You can do that trick with a lot of sites. One of your old faves started pumping out listicles but still puts out good stuff here and there? Might be worth seeing if those higher quality articles have their own categories with feeds.

shelled 2 hours ago||
I cancelled the subscription because I just couldn't connect its stories ever. such was their choices. Not just the subjects and how the stories were from physically so far that I felt it was an exercise in compulsion on my part. I wasn't a fan of the writing style either. Besides, at some point it started to feel like news and journalism were not centre stage, being "delayed" and different were.
networked 4 hours ago||
I learned about Delayed Gratification when someone linked "The last of the Flying Wallendas" (https://www.slow-journalism.com/delayed-gratification-magazi...) in a chatroom. In the spirit of the magazine, I set a reminder to read it in a year. I decided to do it again when the reminder triggered. A total of three years later, it was a good article.
setopt 5 hours ago||
Sounds very appealing. Anyone here have experience with it? If I want to try it, should I go print or digital? How is the writing compared to say The Economist or other more mainstream options?
dwedge 4 hours ago||
How is the economist these days? Around a decade ago I read it cover to cover every week for 18 months, but during the brexkt referendum they seemed to go into a tantrum and half of the magazine was always about how brexit was 100% a bad thing. Even if I agreed with them I don't like "100%" biased news because at some point it's like propaganda. I understand they were started in support of trade deals but even so. Has it improved?
LVB 4 hours ago|||
I've lapsed my subscription because it has, in my opinion, gotten a bit too clickbait-y and many of the articles are sort of thin rehashes of already covered material. It is still better than most, but also fairly pricy.
Seattle3503 4 hours ago||||
It seems fine now
xmprt 3 hours ago||||
> Even if I agreed with them I don't like "100%" biased news

I can understand why this might seem like a good take to have but sometimes you need 100% biased news because some things are 100% biased. Things like climate change is real or genocide is bad should not be controversial takes. Convincing people that there are two sides to an argument is exactly how you end up with sensationalism and extreme views that push the Overton window.

dwedge 2 hours ago||
I understand and appreciate your point, but takes like brexit are nuanced. They might be overall bad, but they will always have some benefits and in my opinion journalism (especially economic journalism) should explain those benefits even if the point is to show that they are more than cancelled out by the negatives. Without this kind of reporting this is exactly how the Overton window gets moved.

I think that when it comes to topics we can vote on, saying X is bad because media says it's totally bad is not really an informed opinion.

carlosjobim 3 hours ago|||
You mean "The E-Communist"?
datakan 5 hours ago||
Also interested in what their biases may be. Being "slow" isn't really enough, they also need to be fair and honest.
speerer 4 hours ago||
Having subscribeed for years, I find it very good on that front. I haven't detected any political bias, and I suspect they would say that fairness and honesty is what the "journalism" half of "slow journalism" means.
something98 2 hours ago||
Similar to the longer cycle times, I'm curious if there is the equivalent for HN. I like this site, https://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/, but it's once-per-day. I'd at least like once-per-week.
jrmg 2 hours ago|
You’re in luck!

https://buttondown.com/hacker-newsletter/archive/

FerretFred 3 hours ago||
The apparent need by the Media to keep issuing constant updates and then suddenly having to retract the story is very frustrating. Each "update" is usually slighly incremental and is invariably a short new paragraph tacked into the previous version. The final version of the story being covered is often a mea culpa retraction because earlier versions were rushed and inaccurate. I'm trying very hard to escape this destructive cycle but it's not easy.
hampelm 4 hours ago||
I'd love a breaking news service that gives me the latest headlines -- but only if they are still true 2 weeks later.
FerretFred 3 hours ago|
Agreed, and chances are that due to the nature of the event bring reported, we as readers are unable to influence it in sny way. Therefore a couple of weeks delay will make mo difference.
dwedge 4 hours ago||
Delayed gratification in my case was going through three captchas before I could even read the advert for a magazine. I know it's common but that disrespect for the customer irks me. How do people here find the content, is it worth trying again?
bcraven 4 hours ago|
if you like print journalism they're a good option with great print quality
dwedge 4 hours ago||
Thank you. I'll give them a try, if recommended I can forgive captchas because most companies don't really think about the negative user experience and it's unfair to punish one
bearjaws 5 hours ago||
This is really what a lot of people need, a return to learning about something 2-3 weeks after it happens and more details are known.

I have often thought about with my friends who are "terminally online" that they would benefit from NOT being a town crier from times gone by.

Many of my friends hate Twitter, hate Elon and hate social media, but because they have to be first to all the latest news, they remain locked in to Twitter day in and day out. They cannot quit. They are socially bound to them because being the person to start a topic on whats happened in Ukraine, who was traded to the Dolphins, etc is part of their socialization.

It's been baffling to me, as I simply don't see the value in being the "first" to discuss some news, especially if its misinformation.

Anyway, all that to say that I think is a great idea and would really benefit society to return back to less "real time" news, which really tends to drown out the big topics in favor of buzz words and Twitter quips.

keyringlight 2 hours ago||
I think proximity is a good measure, what different types of news do you need to know and will impact your decision making on different time scales? There's probably a very small amount of things I really need to know (practically) instantly, regional/national/continental/global news might be interesting to be summarized daily/weekly/monthly, but even then it will be different subsets where it affects me or is little more than trivia and will be forgotten quickly as I have little connection to it.
sedawkgrep 4 hours ago|||
> This is really what a lot of people need, a return to learning about something 2-3 weeks after it happens and more details are known.

I agree. Aside from emergencies or other truly circumstance-changing news, I am not sure there's really any value in being immediately informed vs. days or perhaps even weeks later. I just hadn't thought in these terms before.

I can't help but imagine how much healthier our society would be...

SoftTalker 4 hours ago||
We don't have a local newspaper anymore but there are a couple of bloggers who follow city council meetings and other local happenings. I read those fairly frequently. National/world news I have stopped following at all, as 99.5% of it doesn't affect me and I have no influence over any of it.
pixel_popping 5 hours ago|||
Most people clearly don't benefit from watching the news, tech news is a bit different but regular news are quite useless in general and plain toxic, I frankly advise everyone to take a break from reading the news altogether, maybe do it once a week, stay informed by other means, you won't miss anything, you'll improve your energy and mental health.
45h45h4h 5 hours ago||
one of the first commenters commenting about not being first - irony
mikestew 4 hours ago||
https://lowres.cartooncollections.com/all_or_nothing_fallacy...
whatever1 2 hours ago|
My problem is the opposite. When there are breaking news directly affecting me I have no way of getting them.

In between a myriad of notifications, fake social media posts, total collapse of local radio and tv, I have no idea of how to stay informed.

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