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Posted by siatko 8 hours ago

Darktable(www.darktable.org)
230 points | 114 comments
lionkor 5 hours ago|
I've been using darktable for a while to edit my RAW photos. The amount of features, viable workflows, and in general the quality of the software is baffling for a free product. I would happily pay 200 bucks or something per year to use this, it makes all other RAW editing software obsolete.

I can only recommend it, and there's nothing missing for me, even for editing thousands of RAW photos with presets, different steps, color correction in various color spaces, it's simply fantastic and the documentation absolutely shines.

Not only does the documentation explain how to use it in a way that non-professional photographers understand, it also explains edge cases, things to be careful about, and in general whoever wrote the documentation is sharing a lot of knowledge. I keep pushing this software and it just keeps doing it, I don't seem to stop finding features and little things that do what I wanted, and do it well.

I learned more from reading darktable documentation than from any lightroom/draktable/davinci resolve tutorial.

With the new local-model AI features for denoising and subject selection, it filled the last little missing piece for me. Absolutely fantastic software, can recommend it.

I'm on arch, so to get the latest build I built it myself which was painless.

qurren 32 minutes ago||
I've used Darktable for almost a decade quite happily, but recently am moving off of it because they made one MASSIVE blunder with the new shitty color grading and white balancing tool that never gets any of my images right, all the tones are off, and it doesn't have sane defaults that renders things at least "almost correctly" at first go like the previous white balance tool did. It was way better a couple years ago with the vanilla "White Balance" and "Base Curve" tools.

Darktable also cannot correctly color any of my DJI Mini Pro imagery. None. They all have really bad greenish hues. I haven't been able to publish any of my DJI images for 4 years now because Darktable won't fix it, and it's a known issue that they explicitly plan to not fix (https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/13319).

I'm currently starting to love RapidRAW (https://github.com/cybertimon/rapidraw); the developer is super active and releases new features every couple of weeks. I'm also able to add a few minor nitpick features I want quite easily with AI code tools. I have a good feeling I can get AI to fix the DJI issue on RapidRAW since the code is quite nicely organized.

pmarreck 3 minutes ago||
I now have a business idea: Curated Open-Source App Forks.

Would you pay to have access to a service which tweaked the open-source software you use just enough to make it much more useful to your workflow, and automatically updated it over time? (I'm not just talking about a one-time fork; I'm talking about a subscription to get access to a maintained fork that stays current with upstream, fixes any conflicts, does the rebuild, hosts the build, etc... This justifies a cost) This incompatibility with DJI images that the Darktable devs #wontfix is a perfect example use-case.

Needless to say this would be for professional use, with professional expectations, but if your business depends on having that slightly-tweaked tool, then it may be worth it; just exploring the idea, here

mcdonje 2 hours ago|||
I'm on Debian, which is of course behind. I tried installing the flatpak, which is up to date, but the packager removed the AI parts. The only option I have (short of moving to Arch or similar) is AppImage, which doesn't integrate well with the DE.

I get being against AI, but Darktable is very responsible about it according to their release notes. Local only, opt-in only, no nagging. It's not like Adobe trying to push AI on you when you don't want it.

doubletwoyou 1 hour ago||
One way to get the AppImage to integrate better would be to install appimaged.

Another way to get the up-to-date version on Debian would be to use Nix (install nix, add the stable or unstable channel or whatnot, and make darktable installable)

anfractuosity 2 hours ago|||
Doesn't arch already package it (https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/darktable/), I was using darktable on arch, but recently switched distros.
cryo32 4 hours ago||
Another +1 for this.

I just replaced Lightroom with it after several years. So much happier.

erksa 5 hours ago||
Darktable is fantastic, and their darktable-cli is really clutch as a photographer turned SWE.

If coming from lightroom or the likes it does take some dedicated learning to adapt to the "Darktable" ways of doing things. Deceptively similar UI, yet very different approaches and naming.

Darktable is however, bad at photograpy organization and collections. Something Lightroom shines at.

Built many processes around it for my own post-processing needs.

jillesvangurp 3 hours ago||
> Darktable is however, bad at photograpy organization and collections. Something Lightroom shines at.

It has a very clunky UX for this. But it actually has a lot of useful features for organizing large amounts of photos. There's a guy Bruce Williams on Youtube who has been doing tutorials on Youtube for Darktable for many years that has many relevant videos on this topic. But you can do rule based collections with filters on tags, camera type, and whatever other meta data is there.

It's probably a bit different from what you are used to and IMHO it's over engineered and there are some bad ideas for usability that never really got addressed and are made worse by the developers just putting buttons and controls in all the wrong places. But once you get over that, it actually does have a lot of powerful features for getting organized.

There's actually a fork of Darktable called Ansel that addresses a lot of the UX issues that has been in the works for a few years. The creator of the fork got annoyed with the level of indifference on this topic. There were other reasons as well (he was the creator of the filmic module in Darktable). But most of his UX work at least looks to me as something that the Darktable people might consider adopting.

vjvjvjvjghv 4 minutes ago||
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dllu 3 hours ago|||
I have a pet peeve that darktable-cli requires the GUI darktable to not be running. It would be nice to export photos using my script without having to disrupt my editing workflow...
BeetleB 4 hours ago||
> Darktable is however, bad at photograpy organization and collections.

It's like saying Microsoft Word is bad as an IDE. That's because it's not and IDE.

And Darktable is very explicit that it is not for photography organization and collections.

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roblh 4 hours ago||||
You’re right, it’s just that editing and organizing are so tightly coupled that it’s difficult to use something that just ignores one. Like if your oven and sink were on different floors. I want to like darktable, but I need useful organizing built into the program otherwise I just get annoyed. Also the choices of where they put different editing panels are baffling to me. I can never find anything.

Also, an aside. I would love an image editor that would let you build your own chain of editing modules in an arbitrary order. Like audio plugins, with the ability to have more than one instance of each one.

thewebguyd 2 hours ago|||
> it’s just that editing and organizing are so tightly coupled that it’s difficult to use something that just ignores one.

This is especially true for professional workflows. I do wedding photography as a side hustle, I shoot anywhere between 15 to 20 weddings/year + a plethora of other sessions (family, portraits, etc.).

The asset management (and plugin ecosystem) are nearly just as important as the RAW processing tools itself. Lightroom (Classic) is even wired up to my gallery delivery service (Pixieset) + ImagenAI for first pass edits.

I've tried and used Darktable in the past. It's already completely capable of being my RAW processor, but it's everything else that's missing that makes my end to end professional workflow possible. The processing/editing tools was never the problem that keeps people locked into Lightroom. It's the decades of plugin development & the asset management features.

BeetleB 3 hours ago||||
I felt that way because my prior RAW editing tool did photo organization/collections.

But when I switched to Darktable, I didn't really miss it.

I have a simple organization: Year/description/YYYY-MM-DD/*

(So 2026/yellowstone/2026-06-01/*).

In the end, what matters are the files I export to JPG. It makes sense to use a separate photo organization tool to manage those.

Mashimo 3 hours ago||||
How are you organizing your photos?

For me it was always just folder based. For example YYYY-MM-DD - Eventname and then have sub folders like raw or export.

mcdonje 2 hours ago|||
You can have multiple instances with Darktable.
jitl 2 hours ago|||
well then it doesn't sound competitive with software like Lightroom (which its name seems to mirror)
randomstate 6 hours ago||
Ditched Adobe Lightroom 10+ years ago in favour of Darktable and never looked back. It was the first FOSS software, which showed me how green the grass can get.
ghostly_s 6 hours ago||
Don't lead people down a fruitless path. From their own FAQ:

>Is darktable a free Lightroom alternative?¶ Yes and no. Darktable is an alternative to Lightroom the same way any other raw editor is, since it edits raw files, but it would be a mistake to think it’s a direct replacement. Other than both being raw editors with photo library management, and looking somewhat similar, they have very little in common.

What they mean is, Darktable has very capable editing functionality, but its "library management" is such an afterthought that I would challenge whether it even deserves to be called library management. It seems to be oriented around the design philosophy that photographers should be organizing their library with CLI tools.

Mashimo 4 hours ago|||
When I still used it, I only ever opened the folder with the files I wanted to edit.

I had folders based on dates YYYY.MM.DD - Eventname. No need for cli.

I still do the same now for CaptureOne to be honest.

Arainach 3 hours ago||
That's not library management, and it's not a replacement for Lightroom/C1.

"If you give up on these features, it's a replacement" doesn't make it a replacement.

Mashimo 1 hour ago||
Well not if you use the library management, it's not no.

People often use other software as replacement for establishes software, even though not every single feature is available. I still would say Firefox can be a chrome replacement.

Arainach 26 minutes ago||
There are many image editors. The primary appeal of something like Lightroom is image editing workflow - library management and editing combined. Being able to organize and move around your library is a core feature.

My images are also stored in date-based folders, but C1/Lightroom allow me to very quickly move between folders and identify the file I want, search for files I've rated highly or tagged with keywords/colors, and more.

speed_spread 3 hours ago|||
I wish Darktable and Immich could be integrated into a single system.
pnut 5 hours ago||
Pretty sure Darktable only supports openCL and not Metal for MacOS.

OpenCL is unsupported for M1/2/3/4/5, which makes RAW file processing, batch workflows, basically everything, unusably slow.

Unless something has changed in the past few months, Darktable is dead on MacOS with no fix in sight.

donatzsky 9 minutes ago|||
OpenCL is deprecated, not unsupported, on MacOS and may be removed at some point, but it absolutely does still work for now. If you don't have OpenCL acceleration, it's a bug.
wizzledonker 4 hours ago||||
I use it on Mac - I didn’t notice too much. There’s some GPU usage, I assume Apple still has some deprecated OpenCL drivers kicking around that it knows to use.
Yossarrian22 5 hours ago|||
I used Darktable on Mac yesterday
thatxliner 3 hours ago||
I found Darktable absolutely amazing, although the learning curve is incredibly steep.

Some ex-maintainers hated the direction of Darktable and thus made their own fork, namely https://github.com/aurelienpierreeng/ansel

dllu 2 hours ago|
Original founder of darktable, hanatos, went and made vkdt which fixes a bunch of my pet peeves with darktable:

https://github.com/hanatos/vkdt

https://jo.dreggn.org/vkdt/

* Vulkan instead of OpenCL has way better performance.

* Graph-based editing akin to Blender. This fixes the issue of it being annoying and weird to reorder modules in darktable

It is, of course, still early on in its development and way less mature and featureful than Darktable.

kkukshtel 5 hours ago||
I highly recommend people try out Capture One. After using Lightroom for years, switching to Capture One a few years ago felt like someone turned the lights on. Far and away the best photo and media mangement software I've ever used by at least two orders of magnitude, and reasonalbe license cost and generous free tier.
willbicks 5 hours ago||
If Capture One or any other buy-once commercial offering worked at all under Wine (or, in a dream land, had a Linux build), I would happily pay for it. But unfortunately, I've had no luck getting either Capture One or DxO PhotoLab running on Linux.

I struggle with Darktable's workflow, but it works without issue on Fedora with Wayland (including with my monitor's color calibration), so I'm sticking with it for now.

wmfiv 5 hours ago|||
Not getting into which solution is better, but Capture One is at least 50% more expensive than Lightroom. It's a material difference.
Hamuko 4 hours ago||
Lightroom is 15.29 €/month and Capture One can be had for a one-time payment of 391 €. Lightroom is the more expensive one if you plan on using the software more than 2 years and 2 months.
throw0101d 4 hours ago|||
> Lightroom is 15.29 €/month and Capture One can be had for a one-time payment of 391 €.

Also worth considering how often you change camera bodies: if you get a new one you may have to upgrade CO to get support for the new RAW format. (AIUI, they don't backport things like that.)

dylan604 4 hours ago||
> AIUI, they don't backport things like that.

Ugh, that's horrible. Needing a full app update to handle this minor updates is annoying. The one thing that I did appreciate about Adobe's Camera RAW is that it was constantly being updated with new profiles that would work with whatever version of software being used.

weezing 4 hours ago|||
391 euro for a piece of software seems kinda crazy.
Arainach 4 hours ago||
That's less than €1/hour for how much time I've spent using Capture One.

Good, ergonomic, efficient tools are worth their weight in gold. C1 is one of them. Importing/triage, editing, color profiles, tethered shooting - it's an incredibly powerful suite and works well.

For particularly problematic noisy/dark shots I'll do manual editing in DXO, but I do everything else in C1.

tokai 5 hours ago||
Private equity owed proprietary Mac and Windows exclusive. No thanks.
flipthefrog 5 hours ago||
Want the best software for editing photos? No thanks, I'd rather use inferior open source solutions. Go Gimp
bix6 5 hours ago|||
Yeah who needs the best software for hobbyist editing? $20/mo to Adobe forever until they jack it up even more, no thanks.
BeetleB 4 hours ago||||
Upvoting you, because I actually use Gimp. While it has its headaches, for photo editing it's still the best after Photoshop.

(Yes, still better than Krita).

But this is all a digression, as Lightroom/Darktable are not Photoshop/Gimp replacements. Not even the same category.

mcdonje 2 hours ago|||
Pretty sure they said "go gimp" ironically
dismalaf 4 hours ago|||
> still better than Krita

??? Krita is painting/raster image creation software, why would you use it for photo editing?

BeetleB 4 hours ago||
You shouldn't. But I point it out because people keep posting "Ditch Gimp. Use Krita instead."

Krita's better for painting. Gimp's better for photo editing.

mcdonje 5 hours ago|||
Darktable is top class.
datadrivenangel 36 minutes ago||
Darktable is great. Very powerful for editing RAWs. A few places where you have to learn plugins to do things that lightroom makes a little easier, but not paying hundreds of dollars a year for abusive cloud upsells is great.
redmaple892 3 hours ago||
I don't edit RAW too often so haven't invested the time and effort into Darktable. I have been very impressed by digiKam for organization and catalog management though. I refuse to be sucked into another proprietary database (e.g. Lightroom) and utilities like osxphotos made it easy to turn Apple photos into regular files that digiKam serves up nicely. My goal is to have access to the entire 'archive' on my NAS.

I do miss macOS system controls like zooming in and out via touchpad. In general though, I'm not doing a ton of editing and for my large library, digiKam is working nicely. I tried capture1 for editing but it was more than I needed. I'm glad Darktable exists for folks needing raw editing. I wonder if it produces the Fujifilm specific colors as well as C1?

olooney 1 hour ago|
I've been thinking of getting refern.app[1] to organize and catalog images... Have you used that? Do you have an opinion of how it stacks up against digiKam for the organization use case?

Right now, I'm using a bunch of vibe-coded scripts[3] to help me out; for example, here is a gallery wall of ~500 vintage sci-fi book covers[4] that I generated with it. But I think I've taken the CLI approach as far as it can go and would need a real app to make things any easier; and digiKam might be it.

[1]: https://www.refern.app/

[2]: https://www.digikam.org/

[3]: https://github.com/olooney/image-tagger

[4]: https://www.oranlooney.com/books/

mikece 3 hours ago||
I've kept an eye on Darktable for a while. I do high volume photography for high school sports so while Lightroom Classic (LrC) is the final editing tool before exporting the images that go to the clients a more critical app for me is Photo Mechanic (PM) to cull down from 6,000 images to the 300 keepers from an event (a process that only takes about ten minutes on PM). The last time I tried to run Photo Mechanic on Linux (using Wine) I was able to get it to load but it crashed hard every time I tried to actually use it. If there's a capable competitor to Photo Mechanic for Linux I might take a serious look again at switching. Then again, the speed from the Apple Silicon CPU+RAM+GPU processors means that even if I could get comparable hardware for Linux it wouldn't be any less expensive than a new MacBook Pro M5 Max. Definitely keeping an eye on this space but it's not where I need it to be for my workflow.
jdubs1984 27 minutes ago|
> It is forked on Darktable 4.0, and is compatible with editing histories produced with Darktable 4.0 and earlier. It is not compatible with Darktable 4.2 and later and will not be, since 4.2 introduces irresponsible choices that will be the burden of those who commited them to maintain, and 4.4 will be even worse.

lol

kyrofa 57 minutes ago||
My wife is a professional photographer and Darktable is a critical part of her editing workflow. It's a truly outstanding piece of software.
wartywhoa23 2 hours ago|
The internal precision of controls (up to 0.0001 for many parameters) and the wonderful right-click fine tune popup UI alone were enough for me to forget Lightroom as a coarse axe of a RAW developer, and embrace Darktable.
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