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Posted by theanonymousone 17 hours ago

DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 Intelligence, Performance and Price Analysis(artificialanalysis.ai)
https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731
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0xchamin 11 hours ago|
page not available for me.
try-working 13 hours ago||
Now let's see Dario's price cut.
_ache_ 9 hours ago|
I think, it's the end of Anthropic.

They can't compete, they have bills. By the end of the year, if they can't react, it's game over.

Maybe US clients could be a little patriotic here, but money is money. They won't give them free money forever.

try-working 4 hours ago||
yep. I've been saying for month that exactly this will happen with DeepSeek and Kimi K3, and margins will erode, and Anthropic will fail to IPO.
monooso 16 hours ago||
404. I believe this is the correct URL:

https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/deepseek-v4-flash

theanonymousone 14 hours ago|
Yes, sorry, I went into anti-procrastination mode after I posted. I hope someone fixes it.
theanonymousone 12 hours ago||
@dang is that how we call you?
brynnbee 10 hours ago|||
Say HN is turning into reddit three times in the mirror to summon him
mlmonkey 9 hours ago||||
You don't have to call @dang. S/he automagically appears whenever needed, does the needful and disappears.
WithinReason 12 hours ago|||
no, like this: hn@ycombinator.com
ValentineC 9 hours ago||
@dang please update the existing 404 link to https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/deepseek-v4-flash
madikz 15 hours ago||
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iluvcommunism 11 hours ago||
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AmazingTurtle 11 hours ago||
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Der_Einzige 12 hours ago|
Daily reminder that none of these numbers are valid in a world where no one publishes the sampling settings used.

Daily reminder that improving your samplers from the garbage default top_p/top_k to min_p or subsequent methods dramatically improves the performance of these models, and makes most quantities like measured "verbosity" and subsequent calculations of "intelligence per token" meaningless

Daily reminder that no one, including within academic AI research, AI engineers, normies, etc takes LLM sampling seriously enough.

JSR_FDED 10 hours ago||
Can you explain how sampler choice makes intelligence per token meaningless?
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