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Posted by xtreak29 8 hours ago

Discovery Loop(www.discoveryloop.com)
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deerstalker 7 hours ago|
National Labs in the US have been doing this for a while now. I feel like the private sector will take the lead soon.
pphysch 7 hours ago|
Why? Science is wildly unprofitable on the scale of an individual private firm.
xuehaohu 4 hours ago||
Big news aside, it feels exciting to see them leave and pursue startup. They could have stayed back, and retire
Taikhoom2010 7 hours ago||
The problem is all these new labs don't have any competitive advanatge amongst each other, talent can only take one so far, though Jeff is a legend no doubt.

Models are commodities the applications eg. BaseTen, OpenRouter should capture the value.

https://taikhooms.substack.com/p/why-openrouter-can-be-the-n...

compiler-guy 7 hours ago||
The company is developing an application, or a class of applications. Not a new model.
make3 7 hours ago|||
I think Google's branding was starting to be too poor in AI to get top talent, they needed the refresh
malux85 7 hours ago||
Model routers - send all of your data through a third party who totally swears not to peek at it.

If youre doing anything high value (advanced research, classified work, high value industrial research, health data) then sending your data through a third party like that is insane.

Taikhoom2010 6 hours ago|||
yes perhaps, although I think the best option for a enterprise is to train a model on it's own data.
willy_k 4 hours ago||
Best option by what metric? For which enterprises. I say this having worked at an “enterprise” where this was not a good option. For (lack of) talent/expertise, budget, infrastructure, and actual value relative to the eventual bottom line.
Taikhoom2010 3 hours ago||
Well its not the only enterprise tool, but from the perspective of llm delivering enterprise spexifc insights
willy_k 2 hours ago||
Still, to get results from that you need someone who can create a decent finetune. That might not be realistic, but it very well could be realistic to have someone optimize some prompts and curate a knowledge base. Point is, its a possibility but “best” depends on the nuances of reality.
adfm 7 hours ago|||
FHE
galoisscobi 6 hours ago||
> Imagine a future where a handful of people can conduct scientific research and engineering tasks much more rapidly, and with higher quality, than massive teams of scientists and engineers do today.

Imagine a future where only the anointed few elite minds can participate in science and engineering. Btw we’re hiring.

Great message!

TrackerFF 50 minutes ago|
I don't know why you're being downvoted.

This is basically something scientists have been alarming about for the past year: We're moving into a future where science may be tiered into the haves (those with access to premium compute) and the have nots (hoi polloi with restricted access), which in turn could seriously influence what kind of science we'll get.

Worst case, we'll get science that is completely dependent on business and politics.

EDIT: I should note, this comment was aimed at a more general case.

kulsumshannan 6 hours ago||
This seems interesting! I wonder how this will play out.
Wonnk13 5 hours ago||
not that it really matters, but is he leaving Google?
thatsadude 6 hours ago||
This is “google brain”
claiir 6 hours ago|
The job req has "Recursive Self-Improvement" as one of the "area of expertise" checkboxes lol
paxys 6 hours ago|
It is targeted at a dozen or so people at OpenAI and Anthropic, not you or me.
recursive 5 hours ago||
Then why is it published on a public website?
paxys 3 hours ago||
Where else would they publish it?
recursive 2 hours ago||
If it's intended for a global audience of 12, just send it to them. No need to publish.
paxys 13 minutes ago||
And how do you know who they all are?
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