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Posted by aemerson_ 1 day ago

Show HN: I spent 2 years designing a mechanical Magic Keyboard(electronicmaterialsoffice.com)
Hi HN, today I’m revealing Altar II, an ultra-low profile (4.75mm) mechanical keyboard designed to replace your Magic Keyboard. It’s the keyboard I wish Apple made.

Altar II has fully mechanical switches, plus a magnetically detachable dial, haptic feedback, a red backlight, and a native macOS companion app.

I’m a heavy Mac user and I feel that Apple hasn’t given its keyboards the attention they deserve, in terms of hardware, software, and features, so I set out to try and change that.

It was a massive undertaking and it has taken almost 2 years to get to this stage. One of the main obstacles was fitting a reasonably sized battery into the chassis, and aggressive power profiling without messing with the user experience. Another issue was we couldn’t fit any components on the underside of the PCB because there was literally no space to do so (and there are a lot of components).

Around 4 years ago I posted my first keyboard to HN (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32507172). Its response blew me away and ultimately led to me quitting my job and making and selling keyboards full time. I’ve taken some of the feedback from that original post and incorporated it into Altar II (e.g. the detachable dial).

I’ll be around to answer any questions. Please let me know what you think, I’d love to get some feedback.

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thatxliner 1 day ago|
I feel like this is similar to what Work Louder makes? Am I tripping?
zahirbmirza 1 day ago||
Amazing. Magic Mouse Next please : ) Again, this is just amazing.
aemerson_ 23 hours ago|
Don't tempt me with a good time. I would love to tackle a mouse — I have a lot of ideas!
Locketgoma 1 day ago||
It. It is real thing? cool.
richwater 1 day ago||
These switches remind me of the butterfly switches on previous generations of Macbooks....not a great memory
aemerson_ 23 hours ago|
Yes the butterfly switches were pretty bad. Superficially ours are similar but there are a few key differences:

- Ours has an actual mechanical switch (with a spring and contact leaf) that is pressed, the butterfly switches were a metal dome

- Our switches have much more vertical travel (1.8mm) compared to the butterfly switches (~0.5mm). A big part of the issues with the butterfly switches was they had tiny tolerances, so specks of dust or dirt could jam them. Since our switches are so much larger, this is less of a problem

- Butterfly switch arms were made from plastic, our arms are made from steel.

richwater 12 hours ago||
Thank you for the response. Good luck on your endeavor!
threecheese 1 day ago||
Reserved! I would have paid the 249 today btw :) she looks beautiful.
jeffgreco 1 day ago||
The design is on point and the numbers look great. I want one.
jarek83 1 day ago||
Any chance to make it able to switch between machines?
bix6 1 day ago||
Love it! Can you offer full color lighting instead of just red?
aemerson_ 23 hours ago||
I'm afraid not. For two reasons:

Firstly it makes no sense for a backlight to be anything but a warm colour at night because it strains your eyes exactly when they are most prone to it (at night, in the dark).

And secondly because it allows us some modest power savings. The chemistry used in our red LEDs (AlGaInP) is more power efficient than that used in other colours. Being a very thin device, we have a small battery, and therefore need to save power wherever we can.

jbonatakis 1 day ago||
I’d like to second this. Being able to change the color using the dial would be…satisfying.
hack1312 1 day ago||
The autoplaying videos make your website unusable on mobile.
geod_of_ix 1 day ago|
Impressive. I have a thing for low profile keyboards
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