Fastmail offers EU data region

Posted by groomlake 17 hours ago

Fastmail offers EU data region(www.fastmail.com)

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crossroadsguy 15 hours ago|

I have never understood their 50+10 GB storage as the starting plan. Anyone storing a lot of emails, please don't come at me screaming, but know that not everyone keeps every email and every attachment ever received right there in that email account (especially the attachments). For me, email is just communication i.e timed information, not data storage, except for very personal emails, and very very rare, some non-personal important emails. So some people do like to simply delete the emails they no longer need. Also their pricing almost feels like "unlimited storage" backup solutions mass pricing strategy.

tene80i 15 hours ago|

You mean why isn’t there a cheaper tier than $5/mo? Not much to be gained by offering it, I would think.

3eb7988a1663 13 hours ago||

Even at cloud prices, 50GB of storage is ~$1/month. Offering an additional tier with pathetic storage to save $0.80 or whatever is muddling the offering.

I guess they could offer a 0GB storage option that only operated as a relay?

plqbfbv 14 hours ago||

As a customer, thank you, Fastmail. I recall reading a few months back that this was rumored to be in the works, glad it panned out.

kmfrk 15 hours ago||

As a European and Fastmail user, this is great news.

I_am_tiberius 16 hours ago||

And which company hosts the data? An American company like Aws, Azure, Google or a European company like OVH, Stackit?

fhdkweig 16 hours ago||

The flagged/dead comment contains a copy of the entire page, but the relevant part is:

> Built by us, not rented from someone else

> We’ve installed our own servers, co-located in a secure facility in Amsterdam, set up by our own engineers. This new location is built to the same high standards as our existing infrastructure in Philadelphia and St Louis, with our own hardware and our own software — specified right down to the exact model of disks in each machine.

> In all our locations, data is stored encrypted at rest inside locked racks, and managed by our in-house team. We don’t rent computing or management services from a big cloud provider and pass on their assurances. That’s how we’ve approached privacy, reliability, and performance for more than 25 years.

techpression 16 hours ago||

rb666 14 hours ago||

Finally! I have been asking for this since the US started to lose its mind. Great they are listening.

preisschild 13 hours ago|

But this is completely worthless, they still fall under the cloud act. Trump Admin still has access to your mailbox.

ln809 12 hours ago||

Secondary copy not in EU. So how exactly does that help with compliance?

leros 12 hours ago|

It sounded like a temporary situation until they get a second EU datacenter.

victorbjorklund 14 hours ago||

Not more safe. Only safe way is to use a company not under US regulation.

tamimio 15 hours ago||

Does it matter much? From one side, you are still in the 14 eyes countries (in fact, I would trust a Chinese server if i am living in the west and vice versa), on another side, emails as a protocol was never meant to be secure or private, so deal with it as that, if you are after private or secure communication, choose a protocol that provides that, adding more stuff to emails will only complicate it further plus giving false sense of privacy/security, gpg will leak meta data, receiver email server/client might expose you too, among many gaps, so just avoid it. Still, make sure your email spf dkim dmarc etc are set properly and carry on.

atmosx 15 hours ago||

Okay, that solves two problems for me. Great news.

KingOfCoders 15 hours ago|

We offer EU data centers for customers that want their emails to stay in the EU but

"Resilient replicas of your data will live in the US"

crossroadsguy 15 hours ago|

The US data replicas will be resilient, and when the FBI asks your data to reveal things about itself, your data will refuse to reveal anything about itself in the characteristic resilient manner. That's why the mention of "resilient".

KingOfCoders 15 hours ago||

How is that possible if the OS/drive/vault is backdoored? Could you elaborate?

I think "resilient" just means "backup copy" and I do think (IANAL) it is illegal to destroy emails when asked for them in the US.

Or was your comment ironic? Sorry, German, irony impaired.

Night_Thastus 13 hours ago||

They're being sarcastic.

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