Posted by Raed667 10 hours ago
My wife had a separate motorcycle accident on her Ninja 500r that she caused by turning left against oncoming traffic and getting T-boned. The car bumper hit her directly on the right foot, breaking most all the bones in her ankle, then flipping her over the hood and breaking her femur. She had to have bunch of bones in her foot fused, walks with a pronounced limp, and can't go to any event where she has to stand for more than 30 minutes at at time. We used to go to all kinds of rock concerts, now she has to skip the pit and is stuck in balcony seating.
Motorcycles can be convenient and a whole lot of fun, but do not underestimate the statistical likelihood of a life-changing accident, especially if you are in a position where you have dependents that you have financially and emotionally committed to. I have cats, they won't care if I eat it, so long as THEY get fed by someone.
Carry term life insurance and long term disability so you can support your dependents if killed or injured, which you should be doing regardless of the motorcycle if you have dependents.
A former neighbor died from slipping on his icy front steps. Again, carry proper insurance if you have dependents. You can die unexpectedly from things far less dangerous than motorcycles.
Because of what we would see, neither of us has ever ridden a motorcycle on the street.
I consider myself lucky that I didn’t have a serious accident.
Same. Used to do MX (Yamaha 250 2 strokes) when I was below 30 y/o, as well as off-road/dirt biking, but it's on the road that I got one terribly bad accident (flew over a car than ran a red light while I ran an orange one), with an XR 350, where I ended up unconscious and woke up without being able to see anything (freaking scary and I did last about an hour maybe? Don't remember but I woke up in the ambulance and only started seeing while at the hospital).
I also another crash as a passenger on a... Vespa. Insanely dumb crash.
Both times I escaped mostly unarmed (broke a thumb requiring surgery to put some kind of a nail in it and then remove it).
My brother got a terrible tank slapper at the absolute worst moment: usually you can accelerate to lift the front wheel to get rid of it but there were cars in front of him... He literally flew over his own bike (a Triumph Street Triple) without hitting anything: just due to the tank slapper. He thankfully stopped gliding before hitting the cars in front of him (and nearly got hit by his own bike).
I love bikes but I don't do any anymore and they do freaking scare me. As a father now they're actually my nightmare.
My brother bought a new Triumph (once more a Street Triple) and he's got a CBR 600RR for the track but I just quit motorbikes altogether.
> I have cats, they won't care if I eat it, so long as THEY get fed by someone.
Your wife and friends will care. Don't eat it. Glad your wife is OK: could have been worse.
Right now, I only have a big street bike with over 70 hp. But I remember from back in the day how much fun small engines are, so I’m thinking about getting something with 125cc or even 50cc again for riding around town. A Honda CB125F, Super Cub, Skyteam Skymax 125, or Mash Fifty. 125cc is more than enough! 50cc is really quite small, but it still gets you from A to B with plenty of fun, and you avoid the mandatory vehicle inspection that’s otherwise required here for all vehicles every two years.
I've also never been able to get anywhere close to 3l/100km. As soon as you move onto bigger displacement bikes, you're looking at around 6l/100km, which is comparable to a hybrid car that weights 5-6 times what the bike does! It's far from an extremely efficient mode of transportation given the significantly reduced utility.
Regardless, ride as long as you enjoy it, or until you have to recalculate the amount of risk you can afford!
It’s fun to ride motorcycles though.
But we also have much worse roads and people drive much more recklessly. But maybe this is risk compensation in action. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation
> On a motorcycle, you’re in the environment instead of sealed off from it. Lavender above Grasse in June, a 5-degree temperature drop when the road cuts through a forest, leaning into corners with your whole body
Very romantic, but not very realistic. Most commuters need to show up for work in heat, rain, snow, etc.
>building homes next to jobs
This is almost certainly still "consuming less" in the US. You just cannot pack as much combined square footage + individual private outside space as most Americans are accustomed to next to all the jobs. (Without even getting into that people often change jobs, or have multiple household members working different jobs in different places.)
(This is where usually people say "well the non-generational-housing single-family-home is a dumb choice, or bad for mental health or society or whatever" but that would just take us back to debating about what sort of "consume less" is a "real" sacrifice or not.)
> public transportation
Here too I think that a 20-40 minute packed-standing bus or train car (as is the rush-hour case in cities where large numbers of people commute by public transit) is again "consuming less" than a vehicle that's essentially a private luxury pod (whether driving yourself, the car driving for you, or someone else driving you.)
That already exists, it's called a city. But cities are inevitably dirty, noisy and dangerous because they concentrate people by design, and many people, especially families, don't want to live in one.
Public transit has the same problems. Put many people in a small space and again you get something awful.
Too many close calls, and since giving it up lost five coworkers to accidents.
Still miss it all the time, but it's just not worth the risks. I don't even bicycle on public roads (in the US; I do in Japan) any longer due to too many close calls and several injuries in my social group.
It's because they feel you're creating a dangerous situation for everyone around you for your own convenience and disregard for others.
I'd love an electric motorcycle to replace my previously owned motorcycle, though household rules say it can't happen until the kids are grown up, and for many of the same reasons as in TFA: environment, fun, etc.
One issue with electric motorcycles is that they are inherently disadvantaged by the fundamentally poor aerodynamics of motorcycles coupled with the fact that battery range doesn't scale down as well as it scales up - due to space constraints and fixed minimum weight overhead for inverters, etc.
This would be compounded because my use case would be longer distance pleasure rides, not daily commutes.