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Posted by neogodless 19 hours ago

An update on leaving Gmail for Fastmail(moddedbear.com)
259 points | 162 commentspage 3
etothet 15 hours ago|
I'm in the process of migrating away from my custom domain on Google (I'm grandfathered in from back when they offered it for free). So far getting all my old email, contacts, and calendar info FastMail has been seamless. All that's left is to repoint the DNS.

Like another comment, I too have a couple of services connected to "Sign in w/ Google". Until I actually delete my Google org, those will still remain active. Since I'm not paying, I feel OK about this.

dfee 15 hours ago|
keep going – i was in your shoes 24mo ago.
Hard_Space 7 hours ago||
Switched to FastMail two years ago. Mostly, it's a pretty boring service, which is exactly why I'm willing to pay for it!
frou_dh 14 hours ago||
I like Fastmail but I'm starting to feel that the subscription cost is a bit overpriced for the way I use it (just IMAP email - not using the app, calendars, contacts, file hosting, ...). I've researched and found some other independent paid email providers that are significantly cheaper, although I suspect most of having a low bus factor with just 1 or 2 people operating them.
turpentine 9 hours ago||
It's likely that regular Fastmail users are subsidising their AI costs. I've talked to several people who were a bit shocked when Fastmail decided to complicate their offering with the current hyped trash.
chrismorgan 8 hours ago||
Are you thinking of some other company? The most Fastmail has done in LLM directions is offering an MCP API: https://www.fastmail.com/blog/an-mcp-server-for-fastmail/.
premier_cru 12 hours ago||
i have been using posteo.de for the last decade with no problems at all. Exactly the feature set you use. I only recently started to use their Caldav stuff which works.

I recommend them.

AnonC 5 hours ago||
Same here. I don't want a custom domain for certain things, and Posteo (posteo.de) was good. Posteo increased the mailbox storage to 4 GB recently and the default number of free aliases too. I'm satisfied that it's run by a team and not by one person (the low bus factor mentioned above). At EUR 1 per month, it's way cheaper than Fastmail for multiple mailboxes across family members and provides a lot more value, IMO.
egorfine 4 hours ago||
I'm using Fastmail for about 15 years and this is one of the services I'm extremely happy with. Definitely recommend!
martin1975 15 hours ago||
I got the same capabilities from mxroute.com, another worthwhile alternative - hosted in the USA. Plus they offer a no subscription, 10GB one time fee (I think $150 at the time I got it) account...unlimited domains/subdomains, etc -everything managed thru directadmin. Replaced my Google Workspace email w/this and never looked back. I still use Google for authentication and Google Drive.
john01dav 15 hours ago||
The sustainability of this is dubious to me because you're taking a one time fee for service forever, and eventually someone (possibly a future owner) is going to want to get more money out of you over this. Also, there are recurring costs to host this that continue forever, even with no further income from you.
rationalist 14 hours ago||
Maybe they're betting on new people always signing up and paying, but not using it much. Still a risky endeavor.
jmm5 9 hours ago||
They heavily limit the number of lifetime subscriptions they sell to avoid it becoming a sustainability issue. That product isn't available right now, for example.
AnonC 5 hours ago||
The issue with mxroute is that it's run by one person, AFAIK. Of course, you can always move with a custom domain, but I'd rather have a team of people involved to manage risks better. Migadu (which I'm not a customer of) provides almost the same, but with a team and for a subscription. The lowest tier as of this comment is $19 a year.
snapplebobapple 11 hours ago||
Did this a half decade ago and hacent looked back.
sabot90260 3 hours ago||
Subdomain addressing for auto-sorting is clever. Beats writing filter rules one by one.
NoboruWataya 12 hours ago||
I have been very happy with mailbox.org. I recently signed up for early access to Thundermail, which is the new email service being rolled out by the Thunderbird team. I have no particular need to change except that I like the idea of supporting Thunderbird. So I will be keeping an eye on it.

If you use a custom domain and email clients rather than webmail, moving around becomes a lot easier. Another tip is to use a service like addy.io where you can create a new alias for every service, to help protect against spam.

zazuke 7 hours ago||
Only thing missing is a Screener, which once you have it, you cant live without. No need for burner adresses, as nobod lands in your inbox unapproves. I added it to my TUI, nvim and markdown first email client, neomd.
IndySun 14 hours ago|
FastMail has an admirable bug bounty.

Have its privacy claims ever been independently audited?

https://www.fastmail.com/bug-bounty/

ivankra 8 hours ago|
I stopped reading their privacy policy at "Fastmail is an Australian company" - Australia is a five eyes jurisdiction. That said, I'm a happy customer of almost a decade with them, but my email correspondence is pretty boring and not politically sensitive.
IndySun 3 hours ago||
Interesting. Should any email provider based in any of the 5 Eyes (or even 14) be avoided? But I feel, particularly for everyday folk, we have reached the point at which avoiding some level of surveillance is now virtually impossible.
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