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Posted by speckx 3 hours ago

Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results(kagi.com)
516 points | 187 commentspage 2
sssilver 2 hours ago|
This is the kind of feature that would potentially make me switch, but I feel like at this point AI has disrupted web search for me in such a fundamental way that I rarely use a search engine nowadays.
wccrawford 2 hours ago||
I'm still getting there, but I've seen this. I spent hours a couple days ago trying to get pi, llamacpp, and qwen3.6 working well. I had them working before, but not well. I Googled, and I followed it's instructions and following the links it found. But everything was a partial answer, and nothing was clear.

I finally decided to ask Claude to do it. It discovered things I didn't even know to look for, immediately making it run twice as fast, and then also helped me do the changes I wanted, like per-model settings.

I knew it was settings.json, but I had it in the wrong spot (thanks, Google) and what I didn't realize is that the 2 settings.json files are different. 1 is global-only, and 1 is per-model-only. If you put the wrong settings in, it'll just ignore them silently. Which left me wondering why it didn't work.

Then it tested my settings. Then I had to use the official webpages to set the proper settings and it tested those, too. It made suggestions about removing or changing some settings that also made things work better and faster.

In less than a hour, it had vastly outstripped everything I'd tried, and it got it right and verified it.

And with how wrong I've seen Google's AI be (and how wrong others have said it is) I can't trust it to even bring me the basics about things. It's worse than useless, it's distracting.

magguzu 2 hours ago|||
Just be careful with nuance. Someone close to me asks Gemini absolutely everything because they like how it gives you a straight answer, but real life doesn't always work that way. Context is often missing (besides just being wrong at times).

Search engines shouldn't be replaced by AI but they unfortunately are and it result sucks to see.

dspillett 1 hour ago||
There are quite a few Luddites like myself that don't trust AI summaries and would rather just have the relevant links, so for us this would be useful. Though TBH I'd rather just stick with the paywalled articles being highlighted as such so I can choose on-the-fly. Perhaps the block option is something I'll turn on when almost all the results are paywalled and I want to see if there is a better option before going to one of them.
kenanfyi 1 hour ago||
I use the Bangs feature to open paywalled links with archive.is with !a. When I write !a before the link in the address bar, it redirects to the archive for that particular page. Most of the time it is already in archive.is.

Bang settings:

URL Template: https://archive.is/newest/%s

Bang shortcut: whatever letter you want.

I'm sure a basic browser extension can be developed for that specific action too, but it does not bother me to write !a every now and then.

TiredOfLife 1 hour ago||
Have they added an option to not fund russian invasion into Ukraine?
clickety_clack 2 hours ago||
I wish Kagi had existed years ago. I just saw someone talking about the Google SEO-laden experience when troubleshooting coding errors and realized it’s a pain I haven’t felt in a long time. It’s telling that Google never made a “remove this site from results” option. Their incentives weren’t set up to provide the best user experience.
tomhp 1 hour ago||
Even worse, their programmable search used to allow this, but the feature was removed this year.
imaginationra 55 minutes ago||
Just enabled it- Love Kagi!
OroPla 2 hours ago||
While this is a nice feature, needing an account (nevermind paying) to then only get a meta search engine will prevent me from ever using it.

I already spread my searches across at least four different engines (Bing, Ecosia, Startpage & Yandex), so no single provider has a complete profile of all my searches.

I certainly won't be paying to hand over my data.

tonytamps 2 hours ago||
I don't think your strategy is as effective as you think it is for protecting your privacy online. You should also read Kagi's privacy policy before implying Kagi would harm your privacy model.
JK-Swizzle 16 minutes ago||
They do offer a mostly anonymous search via the privacy pass. It generates tokens to prove subscription without providing account details. I believe it changes token every session, but it might be every search.

Mostly anonymous because even if they don’t know your account, we all know they can still track your fingerprint.

Keep in mind I have drank the Kagi koolaid, so I’m a bit biased.

dewey 1 hour ago||
Ideally it would have a way to allow list domains for sources where I do have a subscription.
cormorant 2 hours ago||
I want the opposite. I want links to the best quality information - even if I have to hunt down a copy.
dethos 1 hour ago|
This is actually an excellent idea. Well done.
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