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Posted by speckx 16 hours ago

Bomb fishing is wreaking havoc on Indonesia's coral reefs(e360.yale.edu)
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oatmeal1 59 minutes ago|
Ecocide should be taken as seriously as homicide.
tobyjsullivan 13 hours ago||
I wonder if there’s a version of Maslow’s hierarchy that applies to countries/societies.
oasisbob 12 hours ago|
Kohlberg's theory of moral development comes to mind.
KellyCriterion 14 hours ago||
For context, a worth-a-read Wikipedia entry regarding the term:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blast_fishing

pranav_tech26 15 hours ago||
Low-cost acoustic sensors paired with community reporting usually beat complex tech solutions when enforcing marine boundaries in remote areas.
ungreased0675 13 hours ago||
It’s hard to believe this is real. Destroying a vibrant ecosystem for a one-time catch is so selfish and shortsighted it’s amazing to me that anyone would seriously consider doing it.
xp84 9 hours ago||
They're the same brand of morally-bankrupt pieces of shit who poach elephants all day long just to hack off the tusks to grind into some idiot's superstitious penis pills. Someday they'll all be gone and they'll just shrug and move onto the next appalling way of making a quick buck.
markdown 5 hours ago||
People don't poach elephants for penis pills. People poach elephants because poverty is prevalent and they are offered piles of money for tusks.

Expect more elephants to be slaughtered as a result of Elon Musks teardown of USAID.

Someone 11 hours ago|||
> Destroying a vibrant ecosystem for a one-time catch is so selfish and shortsighted it’s amazing to me that anyone would seriously consider doing it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overfishing#Examples_and_evide... has several examples of prior ‘art’, and I don’t think that list is complete. Herring almost became extinct in the Atlantic in the 1970s, for example.

And that’s only fishing. Other examples include the passenger pigeon, the American bison, and the dodo.

raincole 12 hours ago|||
What's so hard to believe? Bomb fishing has been a common practice for decades. And poisoning fishing. And electrocuting fishing. Only first-world citizens would find these surprising in the slightest sense.

The difference between the first world and the rest of the world is that the first world has more sympathy for the non-existing, abstract humans from the distant future.

Ekaros 26 minutes ago||
And zero sympathy for the current starving if them not starving would even slightly inconvenience them.
MaxHoppersGhost 12 hours ago|||
China is doing this with their ghost fleets in south american waters. Just terrible.
shevy-java 13 hours ago|||
You mean, everyone else is fishing nicely? Are you sure about that?
kridsdale1 13 hours ago|||
People will do literally anything if they are hungry enough.
thinkingtoilet 13 hours ago|||
True. However, often times the people benefiting from this are plenty fed.
WarmWash 12 hours ago||||
It's more like "People will do anything for money"
pishpash 11 hours ago||
Money is a claim on valuable things, so people will do anything to get more of valuable things. Some may say that's just an abstracted form of biological hunger.
moomoo11 13 hours ago|||
are there other sources of food available?
reticulates 13 hours ago||
The degree to which this lacks empathy for the struggle to survive that people have the world over is harder to believe. Sincerely, though, all fishing is pretty terrible, we (the rich west) have been overfishing and pillaging the oceans for decades. Even now in peak concern for the environment, we really don’t care nearly enough. If you personally want to avoid contributing to ravaging of the planet, switch to a low impact diet (e.g: only eat chicken, or go vegan).
ungreased0675 11 hours ago|||
Not to do poverty Olympics, but I once was poor, living on an island, and reliant on fish for a lot of meals. Don’t assume I can’t empathize.

Why so quick to make excuses for selfish and mind-bendingly stupid people? Why are you assigning guilt on the “rich west” for a local practice that is for local consumption? Not every indigenous practice is good. Some are the reason those communities can’t escape poverty. It’s not colonialism or oppression, their problem is stupidity.

xp84 9 hours ago||
I think some people belong to the very popular new religion that holds as dogma that anything bad done by someone in the developing world must be the fault of evil Westerners somehow.

> It’s not colonialism or oppression, their problem is stupidity.

bingo

superbatfish 12 hours ago|||
>this lacks empathy for the struggle to survive

The article addresses that objection.

koliber 11 hours ago||
Bomb fishing is bad. I am surprised that only 3 football field equivalent areas are destroyed per year in a country as vast as Indonesia.

I hate the idea but this article makes me optimistic that other proactive measures that are not mentioned might be restoring a lot more than this.

Read critically.

Ned_Williams 4 hours ago||
I can't believe this is still a thing.
asdf333 11 hours ago||
yeah maybe lets not do bomb fishing
gpi 12 hours ago||
Ricidulous fishing in real life
shevy-java 13 hours ago|
Well - bombs sounds fancy. How about those huge trawlers that drag everything out? Does not sound as dangerous as bomb fishing. But destroys more than bomb fishing objectively.
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