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Posted by teekert 17 hours ago

Can I opt out of my input or output data being used for training?(help.mistral.ai)
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matthieu_bl 15 hours ago|
Summary of the different scenarios

Service: Vibe Plan: Non-Enterprise Default: Opted in Opt-out possible? Yes

Service: Vibe Plan: Enterprise Default: Opted out Opt-out possible? Yes (admin-managed)

Service: Mistral Studio/API Plan: Not specified Default: Not stated, I assume opted in Opt-out possible? Yes

olejorgenb 8 hours ago||
> In the Admin panel[links to the admin panel], open the Privacy menu in the left-hand navigation bar.

Why not link to the https://admin.mistral.ai/plateforme/privacy panel directly

tensor 12 hours ago||
I just checked my admin dashboard and training on my data is (still?) off. Maybe I already set it to off when I signed up, I don't really remember.
teekert 10 hours ago|
They don’t switch it for you probably, that would be very bad. But the default for new users and orgs on the Team plan just changed. But they didn’t update the docs for a while which left me confused as I started my subscription after they switched but before they updated their docs.
zelphirkalt 12 hours ago||
I remember this being the default for a while already. When I signed up and got an API key, I remember I did turn off the training option specifically, so it must have already been a default to have training on input on.
teekert 10 hours ago|
This is about the Team plan specifically, which was like enterprise before. And it’s about the removal of the option to disable training on user input for all users from said plan at the org level, all last week.
Lucasoato 7 hours ago||
Question: when AI companies say they don’t train on your input or output, do they mean that they don’t train on an extremely simple AI rework of your input or output as well?
creativeSlumber 12 hours ago||
> Vibe: users are not opted out by default

> Vibe (Enterprise): customers are opted out of training by default

So they made it opt in for enterprise (how it should be), but intentionally made opt out for regular user.Basically saying "screw you: to regular users.

Any self respecting user should stop using them.

f6v 16 hours ago||
Same company that has a partnership with Saudis, btw.
icantevenhold 13 hours ago|
This means exactly what?

I think you would be hard pressed to find any relevant tech company that doesn’t have a relationship with the Saudis or is funded by them - or any government for that matter…

Diti 16 hours ago||
This gets posted literally moments before I was about to pay them after ditching Claude. Thank you! I hate data collection in paid products.

I think I will be using Kagi Ultimate for the inference UI, so the data is somewhat anonymized before being collected.

throwaway89201 16 hours ago||
I'm really hoping Mistral will succeed with their open models, so I'm a bit biased, but I don't have any affiliation. This submit is a bit of well-meaning but confused scaremongering however.

Mistral has had, and continues to have, a toggle in the admin settings that permanently disables training on your data. The option has not been removed, and previous opt-outs are still honored. As far as I know, Mistral always trained on your data by default except for the enterprise plan, with the option to disable it on all plans, and with the option for organizations to make the choice for all your users.

Kagi Ultimate still uses mostly closed models by OpenAI / Anthropic, etc.

teekert 14 hours ago||
There is no toggle in my admin settings to disable this for the whole org (when on the Team plan). If it was there before they recently removed it.

"Mistral always trained on your data by default except for the enterprise plan" - This is not true, until last week all docs stated that the use of your interactions with Vibe to train Mistral's AI models was off by default on the Team plan. Now that is only still the case on the enterprise plan.

teiferer 15 hours ago|||
> I hate data collection in paid products.

You can opt out in this one.

evanjrowley 15 hours ago|||
My best experience with Mistral has been with their expensive GLM-5.2 model. It's actually developed by Z.ai, but unlike Z.ai, the GLM-5.2 at Mistral can be used at a low price without training on your prompts - but only if you remember to hit the privacy toggle in their admin settings.

Planning code changes with GLM-5.2 using a Mistral Studio API key and implementing code changes using the Mistral Vibe API key has worked well for me. At my basic subscription tier, Vibe will share data with Mistral. It works for me because, when it comes to privacy, I care less about the actual code and more about the planning / high-level stuff.

nozzlegear 15 hours ago|||
> My best experience with Mistral has been with their expensive GLM-5.2 model. It's actually developed by Z.ai, but unlike Z.ai, the GLM-5.2 at Mistral can be used at a low price without training on your prompts - but only if you remember to hit the privacy toggle in their admin settings.

Same here, actually. I'm American but have had a Mistral sub to supplement local models. The Mistral models, IMO, are very hit or miss, and I was about to cancel my sub until I saw they added GLM.

Zambyte 12 hours ago|||
Thanks for the pointer! I had set up mistral a while back using pi to compliment my local Qwen usage, but I found Qwen to just be better for all of my tasks at a substantially cheaper price, and reasonably fast tps. I also tried signing up for z.ai, but they would never send me an email to sign in. Using GLM through mistral to compliment my local models seems like exactly what I want.
teekert 14 hours ago|||
You can still easily disable "Allow the use of your interactions with Vibe to train Mistral's AI models." What's annoying is that they switched this to on by default on Team plans with no way to turn it off for your whole team/org, this week.
saaaaaam 15 hours ago|||
You can opt out.
rvz 15 hours ago||
Just run your LLMs locally instead of using external providers.

Using Claude, Mistral and the rest of them is not going to solve your issue with data collection.

bigbuppo 11 hours ago||
Great news if you want your LLM to be horny, I guess.
threecheese 11 hours ago|
Realistically, what are the risks? I get not wanting info you provide to AI being used against you in the future, like if you are gay and move to a country where that’s illegal (or live in one where it becomes illegal), but is “training” an actual risk here? I would assume that PII is redacted, and so beyond redaction failure, the real risk here seems to be to intellectual property and not to personal privacy.

Edit: Does “use for training” include “we store all your chat logs forever tied to your identity”?

randomblock1 10 hours ago||
The retain it for "the duration necessary to achieve the intended purposes", which could mean forever.
LtWorf 10 hours ago||
Seems in USA you can go to jail for going somewhere else to legally have an abortion. So for example that.
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