Posted by bratao 16 hours ago
I also used it for a an app for my Garmin watch, and it wasn't good. The code was compiling, but functionality was totally broken and even with a lot of steering it wasn't able to make it work. GLM 5.3-flash instead was up for it and the code wasn't bad at all. I am curious to see if 3.8 is an improvement in this use case.
If I had to pay per token I would probably consider using this (they seem to be on the pareto of performance) but not being able to use opencode with a subscription is not really something I'm realistically going to do when claude and codex are around. Also never gotten along well with gemini-cli / antigravity-cli.
And even when searching for internet, it still cannot suggest a up-to-date approach to the problem.
For example I'm using crystal, it recently revamped the concurrency/parallel model. Even using web search, gemini still does not aware of the new feature and still give the outdated code.
I'm sure my crystal usage is not the unique case here.
(I guess the only relevance here is that if your problem matches a model's strengths, then you can do fine with a model that is several generations out of date.)
- Flash-Lite
- 3.6 Flash [new]
- 3.1 Pro
The above is why i don't use LLM products from Google. If the model is not available right this minute (heck, hours before the release!), then I'm not gonna bother getting back to it tomorrow, because tomorrow I'll be playing with the new model from OAI/Anthropic.
(It also shows that the internet isn't dead. Even people who are not aware of Google AI Studio can express their valuable opinions on LLMs!)
but the webui is currently offering 3.6 flash. the previous model still hasn't actually rolled out to it yet.
AI Studio? Seriously, the hell is that? Gemini, AI Studio, Antigravity - what is all that nonsense? The 3.8 Flash announcement says the model is available to Google AI Pro customers. Is it the same as Gemini Pro, or some sort of AI Studio Pro? Based on the comments, i see the model is available in the Gemini App, not available in the UI, not available to Workspace accounts but is available to some personal accounts, yet I'm not a Workspace user. Some people have already mentioned that they are paid customers, yet they don't see the new model.
I know Google loves asking graph problems during their tech interviews, but I can't wrap my head why the customers should solve these problems as well.
So frustrating and confusing.
Meanwhile Anthropic and OpenAI simply release a model everywhere (Fable on Pro only as a somewhat mild exception).
Anytime anything gets added to Workspace, I think Google has a lot more contractual obligations about keeping it around for X amount of time, so they tend to be more careful about adding things.
Same and I have found it extremely annoying. I actually really like the Gemini models for question/answer stuff and reach for it before Claude (the other model family I have purchased) but it's getting long in the tooth at this point and I'm finding my Gemini usage shrinking to nearly 0.
It's available in antigravity which I started using again (for small things until I can trust gemini for coding again).
But yeah, they really dgaf about gemini.google.com -- I dropped that sub in April when it was clear OAI and Anthropic had lapped them
I have a weird vibe from all the comments in this thread, they feel like a script rather a real experience.
(By high volume I mean things like "main app just updated with XYZ commits, please scan XYZ plugins and surface any compatibility issues")