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Posted by domhudson 21 hours ago

I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer(github.com)
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docjay 10 hours ago|
Style requests tend to get washed away by context. I’m not sure how you’d do it with Claude Code or whatever (I use the API directly), but you might try fiddling with giving it a function called “response” or “message_user” with a mandatory parameter like “output=plaintext”.

I’m basing that idea on custom functions I give Claude where I designate the style in the required parameters. Example:

“””

@pyrepl(code_golf=True, output=CSV)

//END

“””

The “//END” is a special terminator I use for halting the response. Claude runs code between the tags. The difference in code is incredible. No banners, comments, fluff, print(“=“*70), or any other nonsense, and the code is tight and compact. The parameters do nothing, Claude just outputs them as part of required syntax and it dictates the style purely because it output them.

ocd 14 hours ago||
Concerned this will negatively impact people who really have these mental disorders who provided that information in CLAUDE.md to make AI usable for them.

It's bad enough how many false diagnoses and drugs for these conditions are handed out to drug seekers, but potential poisoning of the well on how LLMs handle this information going forward could be extremely disruptive to people who have real daily living issues instead of "10xing productivity."

plufz 14 hours ago||
Im not 100% following. ADHD-type adjustments of information is usually the type of changes that make information more accessible for everyone. There are studies on how classes thst where adjusted because one student have adhd have improved all students performance. So it seems quite different from incorrect medication? Or am i misunderstanding you?
Toutouxc 5 hours ago||
It’s true that my first thought, as someone with actual diagnosed ADHD, was “how the hell is this related to ADHD?”.
Banditoz 14 hours ago||
How do these repos always have so many stars and forks? Roughly 1,800 forks, but only 40ish unique authors? Almost 30,000 stars? Something fishy is going on...
agentdev001 17 hours ago||
Until either of these cases happen:

A: Devs with an online presence stop using Anthropic models

B: Anthropic catches up to OpenAI in terms of per-token efficiency, and average token total for final-output

We will continue to see posts such as this generate lots of interaction. This is not a skill to stop "coding agents" from burying the answer. This is a skill to stop coding agents backed by models which have a tendency to bury answers, from burying the answer. Stop trying to patch the downstream behavior, and look at the root cause.

arrowleaf 17 hours ago|
I'm a developer at a company who has signed contracts to use Claude. I wish I had a choice in model providers, especially considering I spend around $4k in API tokens each month, my company as a whole is around a million. I desperately wish I could use OpenAI models or open weights, Claude's writing style is definitely contributing to my sense of burnout.
asdff 16 hours ago||
I'd be burned out too if 48k of my comp went to what amounts to a facilities spend. Crazy. You think the models actually give you ROI, or this is a sort of jumping with the lemmings thing your company is doing, and you could probably deliver the same output working in "The Old Way" with another 48k on top your base?
arrowleaf 16 hours ago|||
My output is easily 2-3X what it was two years ago. With the introduction of Claude to everyone in the company (HR, finance, marketing, product, dev, etc), so came the expectations of what used to take 2 quarters can now be done in a couple sprints. I would be even more underwater working in "The Old Way" regardless of comp, with how deadlines are being set now. That being said, I don't know how long this will last, I'm not the only 'top talent' at the company facing warning signs of burnout.

Longterm, I believe my total output would be higher working with minimal AI when you consider the impact to motivation and how long I anticipate staying with the company.

asdff 15 hours ago||
>Longterm, I believe my total output would be higher working with minimal AI when you consider the impact to motivation and how long I anticipate staying with the company.

That makes sense. The increased theoretical output certainly makes it tempting to squeeze the developers for all they are and to keep testing how close deadlines can be made. But of course, to what end? A lot of dev work, probably most of it if we are being honest beyond building the initial product-market fit function, doesn't really impact sales at all, and sometimes too much can even hurt sales. And as you say you hit a point where this burns out your talent and makes them seek greener pastures.

Factory sort of thinking towards a job that is not really analogous to a factory anyhow. I'm not saying dev work is one of those 'bullshit jobs', but lets be honest about the job and its role in the business model. Your customers are probably going to be there all the same if you fix the bug today or next month, and you also won't get more customers fixing the bug today vs next month. Feature shipment might be a little different but even then it would take the right feature and the right customer for that one function to really drive the needle in sales compared to being lost in the changelog, and that isn't what a coding model solves for you after all.

smcleod 14 hours ago|||
That's not really how it works. I'm able to get 5-10x more work done, perhaps more, it's a significant accelerant to those that know how to be productive. The problem is more for those who don't - and we bring them up to speed or help them pivot to other work.
asdff 13 hours ago||
How does that shake out for your company? Are you growing 5-10x in sales? I'd guess not and that is sort of the rub with all this. Yes we can push more frequently to the git repo but that wasn't the limiting factor of scaling the business.
smcleod 11 hours ago||
I work across multiple companies, but in general company profits are up across the board. Salaries are not. The larger enterprises are the ones that move the slowest and are the furthest behind. It's not just one thing (productivity), there's all of capitalism at play.
MetaWhirledPeas 9 hours ago||
I like "tersely".

"Tersely, what are today's headlines?"

I admit I don't personally orchestrate agents, but I imagine something like this would work:

"Tersely, write up plans for agents to implement this feature. Begin each of your agent instructions with 'Tersely,'."

I guess in addition to terse wording you'd get terse code? Which ain't such a bad thing.

h4x0rr 18 hours ago||
I found 2 things helping a lot: 1. Use the desktop app instead of the terminal. It really helps with text readability and structure. 2. Avoid opus 5 - 4.6 and 4.8 work much better. 4.6 being by far the easiest to read and also just a good collaborator, you should try it again. Fable also if you can afford it.
vvpan 17 hours ago|
Opus 5 writes absolute garbage, I do have the skill in question installed and it did not help much. Me and everybody on my team downgraded to 4.8 - instant improvement.
ilitirit 5 hours ago||
I still use GPT 5.5 daily. It doesn't seem to have this problem. It just gives me a concise summary and gets to work.
visarga 5 hours ago||
I use the /s4 skill "simple short synthetic style". Just 4 words, easy to remember the formula.
VCFundedGenYer 18 hours ago||
Every chat bot has this problem. If you don't tell it to respond tersely and without conversation, it will waste a billion tokens giving you a 5 paragraph manifesto of rambling and useless redundant information.
ricksunny 17 hours ago|
I look forward to the superpowered upgrade of this I-am-a-gnat-on-crack
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