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Posted by yks 16 hours ago

Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent(ai.meta.com)
523 points | 563 commentspage 3
xnx 15 hours ago|
Ironically, one of the things I most want from an agent like Muse is to read Facebook and Instagram for me and present posts in a user-friendly and ad-free format.
nater5000 15 hours ago||
Lol right? And the REAL irony is that this will likely just be a way to show you even MORE ads while collecting MORE data for MORE targeted advertising.

If Muse could actually just show me content that I want to see and cut out all of the other crap, I'd be willing to use it. Of course, there's no way Zucc will pay for an expensive AI service that will undercut his main revenue stream.

shostack 9 hours ago||
How will that be possible with the Confidential VM version?
robin0716 7 hours ago||
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h14h 13 hours ago||
I'm excited for this style of agent to become more commoditized. I got access to Instinct recently and quickly found some pretty compelling use-cases for it. Namely, preparing my contracting invoices & drafting outgoing emails for me.

The onboarding experience of answering a WhatsApp message asking simply "what have you been putting off?" was pretty slick. Now I just want to see a version I can run on my own hardware so I don't have to worry about some sketchy company hoarding my data.

I know OpenClaw and Hermes are supposedly answers to this, but I find that they've each become so bloated with features that they're far more difficult to use and bug prone than I'm happy with. I'd prefer something more opinionated that limits the surface area for bugs as well as the number of decisions I need to make as an operator.

parapsychic 15 hours ago||
Judging from the website, Muse seems to be too keen on making me buy things - Book Tickets, Buy a Stroller. Would this personal AI spam me with ads randomly like this?
laweijfmvo 14 hours ago||
having used it for a bit, yes, one of the first things it asked me for, unprompted, were things to set it up to buy stuff. i declined but it still consistently wants to spend money; research a trip? as soon as it has any results it prompts to start booking stuff. etc.
rhet0rica 10 hours ago||
Of course it does! Really, though, what it really wants to do is make restaurant reservations. The primary concern of AI researchers has always been, and will always be, making restaurant reservations.

Parsing natural language and solving climate change are downstream of making restaurant reservations.

Universal Paperclips should have been about making restaurant reservations.

pampas 9 hours ago||
The Target marketing team famously could predict when a woman is pregnant but it was too creepy to, uh, Target them with only baby goods in dynamic marketing materials so they would mix in a few masculine things like lawn mowers into the catalog. No idea if that is what Meta is doing here but it's one explanation.
AM1010101 13 hours ago||
This is a pretty good move for Meta to go all in on. AI is ChatGPT and Gemini to normies, Meta is not considered. However when I ask one of my less technical friends if they connected any tools (email, calendar, docs, etc) they are clueless that this is even possible. To them AI answers questions and generates images. If Meta can get this to the masses as the first AI thats useful at doing agentic things, ie an assistant rather than a chatbot, then the average user will see meta as as the company who provides this to them. It’s their best chance at winning the category and having a strong play in AI. If I were Chat or Gemini I’d get something to market fast. Timing wise are they also hoping to beat / be compared to any siri announcements this week in the media too?
SoftTalker 7 hours ago|
I think the average user doesn't have enough going on to need that, or they will be unable to articulate what it is they want the agent to do.
chartered_stack 4 hours ago||
I feel like the two companion pages - AI agents explained [0] and Agentic AI examples [1] - are kinda more telling than the Muse personal agent itself? I don't quite get why we have these two posts at all. A personal agent is more show than tell. Live demos with an actual agent doing day to day things would have been the ideal thing to show off. A version of the infamous Apple Intelligence ad but live.

At any rate, it would be interesting to see what the actual capabilities would be. The Meta AI integration with WhatsApp actually sucks so bad. Hope it's better than that.

[0] - https://ai.meta.com/learn/agentic-ai/what-are-ai-agents/

[1] - https://ai.meta.com/learn/agentic-ai/agentic-ai-examples/

wiradikusuma 15 hours ago||
From the demo, it seems towards "buy buy buy", but I'm cheap, I always compare prices, even for repeat items (who knows, another seller might happen to be cheaper now?).

Maybe I'm in the minority?

Anon1096 15 hours ago||
The best selling point is an end-to-end purchase flow that you don't have think about at all, it does the price comparisons for you. However, if you want to use it to just get the list of top candidates and compare and go make the final decision yourself I'm sure it can do that for you too. Either way I see a future where these claw-like agents can fit into everyday use cases.
nilsherzig 15 hours ago||
Maybe... if run locally with full transparency into the prompts (including system etc) and independent benchmarks for the models (i.e. tests on how eager they are about selling me stuff)

But even in this hypothetical world I would still have a hard time teaching an LLM what I find important in a product. Not everything can be captured in easy to compare numbers. "Does the device creak under pressure?", "What's the one weirdly unergonomic thing about it you only notice after weeks of using?"... Stuff like that. Things which are easy to miss even if the model ingests all relevant reviews about the product, because it might not stand out, but might be important for me.

meowtimemania 3 hours ago||
I asked it to by me concert tickets, it suggested ticket master for 90$ each, I asked it to find cheaper tickets and found something else 70$ each — I found it really convenient.

I asked it to check once a day for the next week and notify me of any price changes

simonw 15 hours ago||
> When shopping, a one-time card number is generated at checkout so your real card is never seen by the merchant or your agent.

That's sensible. Hopefully you can set a spending limit too? I'd be OK giving my agent a $100 limit.

ghostlayersecur 14 hours ago|
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bel8 15 hours ago||
I think they had this sitting idle for a while, waiting for their AI division to deliver a capable LLM to power it.

Now they have Muse Spark 1.3, which is somewhere between Sonnet and Flable (Opus tier in my experience) in intelligence, but is very fast at 200+ tok/s.

I have been using Muse Spark 1.3 contrib (the one that shares your data for training but is much cheaper) via OpenCode Go $10/mo plan for coding and the thing flies, it's a pleasure to use. I think the only faster acessible model currently is Gemini 3.8 Flash which is around 250-280 tok/s.

bilalnpe 15 hours ago|
The amount of usage you get is insane when you stack OpenCode GO subsidy on top of contributor.

There is already evidence of groups setting websites and "think tanks" that aren't for human but for influencing AIs scraping them.

I wonder if having the contributor model read and summarize your propaganda would be even more effective. Instead of astroturfing reddit, just feed it to the model directly. Give it generated threads and ask it loaded questions.

bel8 14 hours ago||
Poisoning LLM? I remember at least one study about it. Perhaps but it would have to be very subtle otherwise they might flag your content and shadowban it from future training.

My personal opinion is that trying to make LLMs inefficient is futile and causes even more waste of earth resources.

It's like trying to stop a coal-powered locomotive by parking a truck on the rails. You're just going to make the thing burn more coal before reaching it's destination.

bilalnpe 14 hours ago||
I wasn't talking about poisoning LLM for generally degrading performance/improvement. But for manipulating answers for propaganda/ideological reasons.
navaed01 8 hours ago||
There are a huge amount of small everyday ‘paper cuts’ this could help with, that I would argue our current status state of technology has actually created and do not work as well as they should right now. For example, I have a WhatsApp group for my child’s classroom. It feels like there are constant barrage of events and dates that constantly change and move. I feel like I spend an inordinate of my time, reading and calendaring each of these events and reminders for what to bring and pack for school every other day. I’ve handed this off to AI and have looked back
thm 15 hours ago|
Hard to trust a guy with your life after he already came for your legs.
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