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Posted by bookofjoe 20 hours ago

Growing proof that autonomous cars save lives(spectrum.ieee.org)
378 points | 656 commentspage 6
foxtrot8672 12 hours ago|
obviously true, and it has a lot of other benefits, such as being able to take a nap while driving.
BoingBoomTschak 19 hours ago||
The article sensibly asks if the (intentionally or not) cherry-picked stats about automated driving (fair weather only, limited to specific areas that aren't especially difficult) is valid then cites a study that really massages those stats in a dubious way (e.g. only counts as a crash if the airbag triggered, no mention of weather). Hmmm...

Another thing I'd really like to know: let's suppose that these are indeed safer than the average driver. Is it also the case for the median driver?

BatchJob 12 hours ago||
The lack of transparency and misinformation coming from the industry players and the NHTSA cast serious doubts on any "science" around autonomous car safety being possible.

If it was really known the full extent of the cover up it would probably be termed a conspiracy between the autonomous car companies, the state DMVs and the federal authorities.

It will take many years and many more unnecessary deaths before we know the truth. THEN give me science based on real and complete data.

khazhoux 11 hours ago|
Having worked in more than one of the big AV players, I can tell you that your fears of cover-ups or conspiracies with the government, is completely wrong. It'd be interesting if you have to first-hand experience otherwise, though...?
superkuh 7 hours ago||
Growing proof that autonomous cars save lives in cherry picked temperate and clear environments that don't get things like snow. The article mentions this point and acknowledges it is a serious problem and then just leaves it at that as if it doesn't completely demolish the entire argument they're making. They don't try to refute it or anything.

>How Does Limited Fair-Weather Data Compare to Traditional Crash Statistics?

>A key question is whether Waymo’s robotaxis, currently limited to fair-weather operation in a handful of cities in the U.S., are directly comparable to humans driving a wider variety of roads in much more variable conditions.

That's literally all they say about the subject before moving on to talking about incomplete sampling of true crash rates.

SoftTalker 17 hours ago||
Growing proof that driving attentively, sober, not playing with your phone, and not speeding saves lives. Actually, we've known that for a long time.
kevin_thibedeau 17 hours ago||
Didn't save Elaine Herzberg.
goda90 15 hours ago||
A vision of a possible future where capitalism might go with the rise of self-driving cars: https://youtu.be/040ejWnFkj0
Lammy 12 hours ago|
The System loves leaning on the Cult of Safety to justify taking away people's autonomy and freedom of movement
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