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Posted by meetpateltech 17 hours ago

iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max(www.apple.com)
367 points | 404 commentspage 3
the_sleaze_ 14 hours ago|
The photos I get on my iPhone are worse with every generation. Can anyone tell me if the photos are any good on these new ones? The hardware is fine I'm sure it's the post processing that destroys the image.
alistairSH 14 hours ago||
Have you tried using a 3rd party photo app (like Halide)?
ricardobeat 13 hours ago||
The 16 was a significant downgrade in quality due to over-processing. The hardware is actually improving, you just unfortunately need to use a third-party app to get access to the raw photos.
maxglute 12 hours ago||
That is a... very underwhelming strap design. Wish Apple would do something interesting with accessories like eink backscreen. It's just been so mid.
gcanyon 11 hours ago||
We need Apple Reference Video and Audio.
rajay99 13 hours ago||
$1199 for a variable aperture camera + 12gb of ram. Why not add stylus support?

Wait, that is gated to the $1999 duo device, with untested reliability.

supratims 13 hours ago||
I think I am going to continue with my 17 pro max for another year. I usually upgrade every year, but not this time.
josephg 13 hours ago||
I haven’t upgraded since 2020 and I still don’t have a good reason to. My iPhone 12 still runs great. I use a real camera for photography. Other than the cameras, what has meaningfully improved over the last 6 years?
arrowsmith 1 hour ago|||
I'm still on an iPhone 11 that I bought second-hand a few years ago when the iPhone 15 was the newest. The battery life isn't great which is the only thing tempting me to upgrade, but I'll still put that off as long as possible.

Other than the battery I have no complaints. It's a phone. I can make calls, send texts, browse the web, check maps, take photos. What more do I need? Why waste money?

I can't even tell the difference between newer iPhone models. Why do people upgrade every year? What's the point?

muppetman 12 hours ago||||
Yea I just swapped my jogging/beach iPhone from an Xr to an iPhone 12 and wow, it's so much better than the Xr and pretty much as good as my "proper" phone, an 17Pro. It's got 4G RAM instead of 12G but it performs almost as well. Xr->12 is a huge leap in performance and I noticed it straight away. But the 12 against the 17 is much harder to see the difference. Less redraw of icons on the main screen is the primary thing I've noticed.
mrheosuper 8 hours ago|||
The only noticeable thing is faster screen, the 17 has 120hz screen.
blitzar 4 hours ago||
my eyes are an older model
whackernews 12 hours ago||
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b8 4 hours ago||
Samsung phones still have better cameras. Nothing that special over the Pixel 10.
refactor_master 1 hour ago||
If you think a cryptographically signed image can’t be JPEGed 5 times and shared on Facebook for misinformation then here’s a relevant XKCD for you:

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/security.png

BISH-BASH-BOSH 17 hours ago||
Is the C2 modem the satellite data chip?
rickdeckard 14 hours ago|
It's their in-house cellular modem for 2G/3G/4G/5G.

No details on satellite comms, but the predecessor C1X also handles satellite communication and competitor Qualcomm also does satellite comms on the same silicon, so I'd say yes.

publlus_enigma 11 hours ago|
I wonder how this works in tandem with the Computational Image Pipeline?

From Apple: "Apple Reference Image provides users with an unalterable reference photo, visually confirming what the sensor saw at the moment of capture."

The pixels that arrive in the final image have already been significantly altered from what the sensor saw: demosaicing, noise reduction, Deep Fusion, artificial bokeh, etc. Is the signature anchored to raw sensor readout (making the reference a de-mosaiced digital negative, with all CIP processing deliberately left outside the trust boundary), or to the CIP's emitted image (in which case what does 'unalterable' actually protect against)? If it is the latter, then Apple are essentially saying some forms of computational (and ML) manipulation are acceptable in a signed capture, so long as it is their manipulation.

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