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Posted by datakan 2 days ago

LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'(www.tomshardware.com)
https://www.lg.com/global/newsroom/news/statements/statement...
477 points | 382 commentspage 4
thakoppno 7 hours ago|
The World Cup is broadcast in many different languages with the same video feed. That’s likely one of the main reasons audio fingerprinting is better than video. You also get better idea of the target demographics language preferences and that leads to more relevant advertisements.
drnick1 10 hours ago||
If you have one of those TVs, disassemble it and unplug or remove the microphone, camera and the wireless adapter. Use it as a (rather nice) 4K monitor for a Linux box with Plasma in Bigscreen mode. Pair that with an airmouse remote and you get the most private and user-centric streaming/gaming platform that you can build. Put a decent GPU in the box, add an Xbox controller and Steam and you also built the world's best console.
nullc 3 hours ago|
Has someone qualified that removing the wireless hardware leaves the device functional?

This would be a nice public service for gamers nexus that happened to buy a lot of these devices. :P

I can say from experience in several devices (but not an LG TV) that removing dedicated bluetooth chipsets so far has left devices functional. ... but some things implement their bluetooth as part of the ESP32 that is the whole kit and kaboodle, so you can't remove it.

As to why someone would remove these components -- in addition to the explicit spying LG is doing, there are companies dragnet collecting BTLE device identifiers <> gps collecting, including collecting them via phone apps. This means that if you have any BTLE devices that are frequently with you or otherwise connected to your identity it may be possible for a threat actor to determine your location(s) from largely unregulated commercial databases.

I don't use BTLE at all, so this 'functionality' is a pure risk to me.

Jcampuzano2 13 hours ago||
> Audio used for wake-word detection is processed locally on the TV and, if no wake word is detected, audio is not converted to text, stored, or transmitted. Voice-recognition results and related technical logs may be generated as part of processing a voice command. These records are associated with specific voice interactions and do not indicate continuous recording of conversations occurring outside an active voice recognition session.

From their statement. This entire thing is contradictory. You cannot both say "not converted to text, stored, or transmitted", while at the same time saying the results may be generated and stored in the form of logs.

We need to hold companies responsible for this shit.

rkagerer 4 hours ago||
Does anyone make a TV these days that's just a TV?
nottorp 9 hours ago||
They can be trusted as much as Sony and game ownership i suppose.

I still have an 1080p TV because I can't be arsed to do the research on what 4k TV won't spy on me.

It helps that most "content" isn't worth 4k anyway.

Havoc 11 hours ago||
That's a bold play given how "caught red handed" the gamersnexus video was.
mbfg 5 hours ago||
gamer's nexus responds to lg's response https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToP9xfLDSME
lousken 12 hours ago||
Maybe they should have shorter and clearer terms? Maybe it should be easy to just opt out?
jarym 14 hours ago|
The real issue here is they’ve been dishonest and less than candid with their customers.

Trust broken, words out, and their statement doesn’t really do anything to mending that.

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