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Posted by vertigoruntime 18 hours ago

Astra for Law(openai.com)
525 points | 629 commentspage 8
rocke_dong 13 hours ago|
yes, law decision depends on human
gamblor956 11 hours ago||
Espn has an article about Lane Kiffin using this for his legal advice recently.

He almost singlehandedly killed LSUs football program until people were able to convince him to talk to a real lawyer.

hackmack10 17 hours ago||
People that are saying OpenAI is screwed because a lack of profit, I'm not of that opinion. They are encroaching on every industry they can. They have name brand recognition, a huge user base and are showing they can be a valuable tool to all types of businesses.

As much as I hate to see it. They are now threatening industries like Engineers, Game Developers, Accountants, 3D modelers, 3D animators, Video Production, Audio Production, Therapist, Tax Auditors, Journalists, Authors, Artists, Mathematicians, Product managers, Every type of analyst and pretty much any other job that can be done behind a computer screen.

We have big problems for humanity.

superxpro12 17 hours ago||
I'd kill for an AI that can tell me how to fix shit on my own, with proper permitting and building codes factored in.
hackmack10 17 hours ago||
I used ChatGPT the other day to resink a CPU with termal paste, replace a PSU in my PC and snake my kitchen sink from the wall. I didn't exactly need it's help but wanted someone looking over my shoulder so to speak. It can help you repair all types of stuff, but as far as county / building codes and such, that probably isn't far off. It seems to understand things quite well.
mawadev 17 hours ago|||
I think the future is going to look pretty boring, we are all going to review and put our signature below LLM generated output...
WarmWash 17 hours ago|||
By that point money ceases to have value, because the value of money comes from the motivation it gives people to work. If AI does everything, then money is useless (unless AI like money for some reason).
trinari 17 hours ago|||
There will still be a need to distribute and exchange ressources, goods and services.

Real estate, food, energy, mobility.

That will be done with money. Or violence. Either way, a scary future to people when labor doesn't provide any value. Elon promises abundance, but what can he do against greed?

xpct 11 hours ago||
I am genuinely worried about violence, especially if people start losing their jobs due to automation.
esafak 17 hours ago|||
People are still going to be motivated to eat and have shelter.
program_whiz 1 hour ago|||
Yeah could get interesting. Things like legal, programming, math, etc. are going to be relatively cheap / free. Meanwhile something like natural resources, building things, yardwork, etc. may go up in value. Or perhaps we end up with a relatively "spiky" economy since 90% of people are just doing physical jobs (the only human jobs with value), and the AI owner class of course gains all the value from intellectual products (with value diminishing towards cost of electricity). Thinking as human value may be roughly as valuable as it ever was (which is to say nearly non-existant other than the ability to solve an immediate physical problem). Might also be that physical strength and stamina are the highest value mating traits, since they will be able to protect and provide. Physically weak intellectual types will have little value since they can't out-think the machines, and they also can't provide for a family by doing valuable physical tasks. IQ overall begins to drop as mating favors intelligence less and less, as it can actually be an impedance to being productive.

For a short time in history, the ability to obsessively focus on intellectually interesting abstract concepts was highly lucrative, but just as quickly we returned to the laws of nature: those who can lift and move succeed, those who can only think are automated out of existance.

We go from a species increasingly seeing themselves as "brains with bodies" to "amazing bodies with weak brains". The limitation of robots and AI in the physical realm, power hungry, mobility limited are contrasted with human values: energy efficient, highly mobile and dexterous, extremely good strength/speed/size ratios. The brain on the other hand, while energy efficient, is completely outclassed and seen as we see our swimming/jumping abilities: a novelty for sports, but nothing we seriously consider a defining human trait.

The smartest humans can fill weekends with novelty pursuits like building circuits, games, programs, etc. But they are about as useful as whittling and hobby woodcraft, something to pass time, but ultimately of no economic value.

WarmWash 16 hours ago|||
Of course, but who (what?) is going to make the food and the shelter?
esafak 13 hours ago||
Either way, it's not going to be free, so if money ceases to have value, we are going to have a problem. That's my point.
andriy_koval 16 hours ago|||
there are always be next frontier of problems which require creativity, unless AI become supersmart completely make humans redundant in all cognitive functions.
swed420 17 hours ago|||
> We have big problems for humanity.

The biggest problem is that we're conditioned by a paradigm that frames these as problems.

ai-x 16 hours ago|||
Most HNers are clueless that if you have Top Talent + Capital you already have an insurmountable moat. OpenAI, SpaceX, Anthropic all have that and none of the regular guys can compete against them (if they choose to attack that industry)
ReptileMan 17 hours ago||
As one wise man said - the oldest profession will also be the last to go.
jimmyjazz14 16 hours ago||
I really hope the bar associations continues to hold lawyers to high standards but I have feeling they may not be ready to handle fallout of AI slop-law.
slowhadoken 17 hours ago||
Wouldn’t this and similar efforts to centralize bureaucracy make AI the new gatekeeper? Without reliable transparent models we’re just trusting OpenAI instead of a hundred top legal firms.
syntaxing 16 hours ago||
I said this before but I wonder if Dan Kan will reboot Atrium. Rally up some old partners and hope Anthropic buys them out for a couple billion.
elpakal 17 hours ago||
where are the benchmarks
hacker_88 8 hours ago||
Make em Grant Bail. Make no mistake.
TheRealPomax 13 hours ago|
how about "just turn off your company if you're so worried about AI instead of immediately suggesting we use it to judge people's lives and livelihoods"?
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