Posted by semidror 1 day ago
Ask HN: Is it impossible to disable Siri on macOS 27?
Next, I disabled all Siri-related and Apple Intelligence-related services as per https://github.com/OleksandrKrupko/mac-os-debloat
But after restarting, I could still see a "Siri" process running in Activity Monitor. Upon further inspection, I found that it is the "Siri AI.app".
These "features", together with Apple's Personal Context sound very similar to Microsoft's Recall.
Does anyone have the same experience? Is it really impossible to fully turn off Siri, Siri AI, Apple Intelligence and all related services and features on macOS 27?
Then people will flock to tell you how it can be disabled by XYZ.
My next laptop computer (which is sorely overdue) will be Linux with macOS in a VM.
A pity, because Keynote is great.
It did take me a week to notice because the assholes keep spamming me about 26 or 27, but it's there.
> The new macOS'es always seem to add more restrictions, more bloat
The main reason I'm on Sequoia is the low contrast UI with the invisible resize points. The "intelligence" taking up space and probably having no off button is secondary.
Oh look at that, there's a new update for Sequoia in settings!
Note: Because of dependency on architecture and system changes to any current version of Apple operating systems (for example, iOS 27, macOS 27, and so on), not all known security issues are addressed in previous versions (for example, iOS 26, macOS 26, and so on).If the "Siri AI" app has replaced Spotlight, then I wonder if Apple keeps building "personal context" despite Siri and Apple Intelligence being disabled.
It for sure doesn't sound well to disable Siri and still see a "Siri" process.
I've had to resort to asking it to take a screenshot so I can go find the song later. Three quarters of the time it never saves the screenshot though, despite seeing the screen flash out of the corner of my eye.
Now it takes 10-15 seconds to start after a voice command, won't audibly alert or even stop music to take voice input, and usually fails to hear anything then quit out. Half the time it does that it then pauses the music and quits...
With Tidal Gemini can't do anything using voice commands. Maybe SOTA models can help those on the bleeding edge, but 95% of tech users just want it to work and be cheap enough. Apple figured this out a long time ago but can't help itself with being too clever.
Yeah I used the old Assistant regularly, but after the Gemini update it started refusing to set a timer for me, so I churned.
An admirable objective, but given how “well” siri has worked in the past, an unrealistic one. We’ll see if 27 is a significant improvement. If I had to bet, I’d bet no, at least for the next year.
So given I don't want to look at the phone nor speak with Siri, can I turn off interacting with the phone at all while it's connected? No, somehow, they do it the opposite way, and oh no, accidentally I need to also agree that Siri can listen all the time and also agree to...
Come on, it's very transparent what they're doing. Siri on or off doesn't make me or others look more or less on the phone. Forcing Siri on, forces us who don't use Siri and don't want to use Siri, to accidentally trigger Siri while we fucking drive, which is absolutely horrible.
At the risk of explaining a joke: Windows tries to get you to set up things like OneDrive on startup with a "do it now" or "remind me later", there's no "never ask me about this again".
> Apple Intelligence requires that Mac and Siri are set to the same language. Currently your Mac is set to English (United States) and Siri is set to English (Canada).
I think at one point they may have removed this limitation but then they reintroduced it in macOS 27.0.
If you are on macOS 27, could you please open Activity Monitor, search (filter) for "siri" and see if a process called "Siri" is still running?
I have no idea in this case, but it's possible that "Siri" and "Siri AI" are genuinely different in behaviours and interfaces and dependencies, even if they are the same binary.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comments/1wlm6gd/apple_support_...
If you don't manually delete the files, they remain on your Mac until your storage is nearly full.