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Posted by raahelb 4 hours ago

Claude discovers a novel enzyme system with CRISPR-like repeats(www.anthropic.com)
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porridgeraisin 2 hours ago|
From ravid shwartz ziv:

https://x.com/ziv_ravid/status/2102844800345251858

monroewalker 2 hours ago||
Thank you for sharing, that provided some good context for how to interpret this

Post content:

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I wish we didn’t need these again, but here is the honest version of Anthropic’s biology announcement (Caveat: I haven’t worked in bioinformatics for many years.) The good: Anthropic ran ~950 Claude agents over a large biological sequence database. Claude searched, wrote code, compared sequences and genomic neighborhoods, and found an interesting pattern that apparently had not been noticed before: a known reverse transcriptase associated with another gene and a repetitive DNA array.

That is cool. Automating this kind of open-ended bioinformatics search at scale is useful, and Claude may have found a lead a human would have missed.

But: Claude did not do a biological experiment. It searched databases and analyzed data.

Humans then took the candidate into the wet lab. And the wet-lab result so far is modest: they showed that the repeat array produces short RNAs.

We still don’t know what the system does. No function, mechanism, phenotype, targeting, defense activity, or programmability has been demonstrated.

This is also where the CRISPR framing gets ahead of the result. Right now, “it has some features reminiscent of known programmable systems” is a hypothesis for what to investigate next, not a discovery that it behaves like CRISPR.

And there is a missing baseline: bioinformatics has had tools for finding unusual gene neighborhoods and candidate systems for years. The interesting comparison is 950 Claude agents vs. an expert using the best existing computational pipelines - not Claude vs. someone manually looking through 200,000 sequences.

So my honest announcement would be:

Claude autonomously found an interesting candidate for a previously uncharacterized biological system. A small human wet-lab experiment confirmed that part of the candidate is expressed. We don’t yet know what it does.

That is a good result.

But in a regular biology lab, this isn’t the finished paper. It is the result you show at lab meeting and say: “This looks interesting. Now we need to figure out what the hell it does.”

Maybe that next step leads to a major discovery. But that discovery hasn’t happened yet.

Kotlopou 49 minutes ago|||
100% AI per Pangram. I caught it at "This is also where the CRISPR framing gets ahead of the result." -- somehow this is not a sentence anybody non-obnoxious would write. It's a weird structure where the AI talks about something specific as if it were an example of a common theme. This paragraph is an even clearer ekample:

"But in a regular biology lab, this isn’t the finished paper. It is the result you show at lab meeting and say: “This looks interesting. Now we need to figure out what the hell it does.”"

This is not how people write!

merksittich 2 hours ago||||
I am irked by the CRISPR framing. That seems to be IPO positioning.

Good hypotheses are a dime a dozen in life sciences. Biology is very unforgiving and most hypotheses lead to nothing when thoroughly tested. This is true for something as "simple" as enzymes as in this case, but even more true for curing diseases. Otherwise, there would not be any failures of phase III clinical trials, after billions USD spent on preclinical research and prior clinical trials.

When overinterpreting these (interesting) results, you are entering Andy Grove Fallacy [0] territory very fast.

[0] https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/andy-grove-rich-fa...

zozbot234 56 minutes ago||||
Why does this read so much like Claude talking about Claude?
porridgeraisin 2 hours ago|||
A more spicy follow up take :) https://x.com/ziv_ravid/status/2102850969537225149

> The sad thing is that Dario knows better.

He was a PhD student. He knows the significance level of this result. He knows that if he had walked into Bill’s office (his advisor) with “we found an interesting system, but we still don’t know what it does” and said he was ready to graduate, Bill would have kicked him out of the room.

But somehow, when the IPO is around the corner, this becomes “AI is starting to drive biological discovery.”

DavCreator 1 hour ago||
https://xxcancel.com/ziv_ravid/status/2102844800345251858
Sol- 3 hours ago||
"Investigating the novel enzyme incident in our SF lab [2027]"
hmokiguess 3 hours ago||
I'm getting tired of the marketing.

There are so many people involved on this yet we still say things like "Claude did", we need to start waking up and being more real about how we are still in "AI + Human" land.

What's wrong with saying "A team of researchers backed by Anthropic using Claude discovers a novel enzyme system with CRISPR-like repeats" or, ffs, mention the lead researcher in the headline?

dekhn 2 hours ago||
It looks like the researchers just wrote the agentic harness and the rest of the work really was done autonomously by Claude with only extremely limited guidance after.

BTW the first author of the paper worked in the Doudna lab studying the origins of crispr (and after their PhD, joined Anthropic). All of the authors either have, or are going to have, excellent careers. I dont' think they are worried about attribution.

suddenlybananas 28 minutes ago||
Anthropic is paying them to not worry that much about attribution. If any of them emphasised their role over and above Claude they wouldn't get the money anymore.
qlte 2 hours ago|||
I'm more annoyed that they announce "CRISPR-like" to hit those SV Next Big Thing dopamine receptors but upon reading haven't done any laboratory work to determine if it has any useful applications like CRISPR-Cas9.

It's totally legitimate research worthy of publication, but Anthropic chose a hot technology in the popular imagination for a reason. Now I'm going to have to see "Claude invented a new CRISPR in 24 hours!" everywhere and trying to correct it will just turn into repetitive arguments about goalposts moving....

jackb4040 3 hours ago|||
If it requires humans in the loop it throws cold water on the hopes of replacing millions of jobs, which is priced into their current valuation.
azan_ 2 hours ago|||
It's not, if it was their valuation would be much, much bigger.
Windchaser 2 hours ago|||
eh, farming still requires humans in the loop, only <1% of the number that it used to
jackb4040 2 hours ago||
OpenAI/Anthropic have never pitched themselves as a replacement for farmers. They do explicitly say that they're going to cause significant job loss in knowledge work sectors all the time.
Windchaser 2 hours ago|||
Right - I'm saying that you can greatly improve productivity / reduce employment while still having humans in the loop. We've already seen it happen with farming, from 1900 -> present.
jackb4040 1 hour ago||
Oh thank you, yes that makes way more sense.
cannonpalms 2 hours ago|||
Woosh.
tarkin2 3 hours ago|||
Because they’re trying to pump their stock price before their economic walls come tumbling down
azan_ 2 hours ago||
What stock?
airstrike 1 hour ago||
The private stock that's about to go public
foxrider 3 hours ago|||
Is it really all that different from "deep mind beat Gary Kasparov"?
twobitshifter 2 hours ago||
At a trade show, I met a company that was advertising a feature as powered by Claude. I asked an employee what that meant, as it seemed unlikely, and he then didn’t know how answer so he introduced me to the CEO. The CEO said that the ad meant that Claude now writes all of their code including that new feature. They are now working on having Claude handle their QA process. I wondered if any of the devs were at the booth or if the employee I spoke to first was a dev who knew it was bs.
ex1fm3ta 3 hours ago||
LLMs are really good at discovering patterns on huge dataset. Google also had similair breakthrough discoveries they stopped marketing them
aniceperson 3 hours ago|
yes and no; you cant dump DNA in the context window and call it a day, in the blog post it was a common tool calling session. you do can have actual ml models for that, that the llm could use as a tool.
pixl97 3 hours ago||
I don't think you quite understand the loops here.

At Google/OpenAI/Anthropic level you have clusters of LLM agents working with clusters of ML agents doing all kinds of tasks. A lot of this falls into proto-RSI where the LLM can improve the ML agents output based on analysis of said ML.

This isn't much different from how people work, you can't dump even part of DNA context in a human mind and get anything useful out. We has humans have to use and build tools to find answers because of scaling efficiencies of different computation types.

hn_submit 2 hours ago||
Fake news to pump up their share price. You can't trust any news about A.I. these days, especially near their IPOs.

This A.I. hype makes the Internet Bubble look like a walk in the park.

yehudalouis 1 hour ago||
Why is it fake news, and how do you know that?
stevenhuang 1 hour ago||
If by now you still think it's all just hype, it's safe to say you've succumbed to a mind virus that renders you unable to think critically about AI. Otherwise you'd have some level of awareness of just how far this technology has developed, and you should find these developments more than plausible.
6thbit 2 hours ago||
when they say "claude" what model do they mean ?

no mention of opus/mythos/fable or anything..

sigmar 2 hours ago||
seems like mythos 5 did most of the leg work, they refer to it in the technical report linked at the end: https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/22573675ada52a8ca8a97a1a4b4326...
6thbit 2 hours ago||
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m00x 2 hours ago||
It could be an internal model as well.
dawnerd 2 hours ago||
Could also just be hired specialists internally and it's pure marketing (even if they discovered something new).
6thbit 2 hours ago||
lol, it's true, Claude in the article is so anthropomorphized that you could read it as if it was a human just as well.
MachineMan 3 hours ago||
Don't use it for biology, Dario said, as he turned humans into Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.. I reckon that soon, he too will return to dimension X.
hackeraccount 3 hours ago|
I call Michelangelo!
cactusplant7374 2 hours ago||
Was he paid to review the paper? His praise reads very unauthentic.

> After reviewing the pre-print, Feng Zhang, one of the pioneers of CRISPR genome editing and a professor at MIT and the Broad Institute said:

> This is an exciting example of how AI agents can contribute to biological discovery. The identification of RNA-repeat arrays associated with reverse transcriptases is genuinely intriguing and merits further investigation. I hope this work encourages more scientists to explore how AI can support their research.

mullingitover 3 hours ago||
This is great, but I can't help but wonder if we're going to have another post next week with a lab complaining that they were about to publish this same finding, and they had Claude proofread their paper, and whoops how'd that get into Anthropic's training data?
monospacegames 3 hours ago||
I wonder how long it will take for the damage Alpöge and Buckmaster have done to the perception of these AI-driven scientific developments to fade.

Not saying that they were right or wrong, but that single moment sullied all AI-driven breakthroughs that came after it, and I don't think it was ever particularly relevant, at least not nearly to the degree that it was presented in the media. But I guess it ended up being a convenient outlet for AI anxiety in the end.

mullingitover 3 hours ago|||
I don't think of this stuff in terms of AI anxiety, I just think that the AI labs should be falling all over themselves to display deference and humility to those who made it possible.

The LLMs that make this stuff possible weren't created by the AI labs from whole cloth. They crept up and jumped onto the shoulders of giants, basically the collected (non-consensually, of course, but jingles keys look at this pelican riding a bicycle!) works of humanity. Every discovery LLMs enumerate in this fashion rightfully needs to have a billboard-sized asterisk regarding the provenance of the discovery. "Claude" didn't discover this, everyone who worked to produce the internet that Anthropic siphoned into their dataset belongs on the credits.

It's great that it happened, and I wish them the best of luck in using our work to make the world a better place. Just don't forget who the rightful owners are.

techpression 3 hours ago|||
The AI labs did that to themselves. All those billions and their marketing and communication skills are like those of a local street vendor selling fake knockoffs.
epistasis 3 hours ago|||
This is a very inaccurate manipulation of facts that fundamentally misrepresents everything that mathematicians wrote.
bananaflag 3 hours ago|||
Shouldnt this be "misrepresents"?
thorum 3 hours ago|||
In what way?
petcat 3 hours ago|||
Lots of stuff gets discovered by AI bots that was always hidden in plain sight. They're remarkably good at "connecting the dots".
pixl97 3 hours ago||
Being an effective pattern matcher and next word predictor is like 60%+ of intelligence, maybe more.

The people that say "It's just a next word predictor" might as well be saying "Well, it's just a long rage nuclear missile".

jjtheblunt 3 hours ago|||
the article says the reverse transcriptase had been noticed before, but apparently only Claude commented on the subsequence repeating, to your point.
caaqil 3 hours ago||
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Chance-Device 3 hours ago|
I think this approach of actually doing useful science is better PR than hiring an army of influencers to shill for you, OpenAI style.

Generally speaking, hiring an army of influencers to shill for you results in bad PR, and comments like this one.

the__alchemist 3 hours ago||
It's not useful science; it has the rigor of someone posting a vague shower thought on Show HN or reddit.
ethanj8011 1 hour ago||
I'm not going to say that it is absolutely Earth shattering (not that they claim that), but your comment is obviously wrong. In the paper they show experimental results where they express some of the proteins and show a phenotypic effect. They don't claim an exact function either, and are relatively restrained on the biology end of things. I fail to see how it is at the level of a vague shower thought.
the__alchemist 5 minutes ago||
> Although we don’t yet know its function, the system that Claude discovered has a set of characteristics that have only ever been found together in a handful of other systems, all of which are programmable and perform operations like cutting, copying, and pasting DNA. Beyond CRISPR, which has already transformed science and medicine, several other such systems are now in development as promising tools.

It's not novel, and they don't know if it means anything. They published it here for PR purposes.

binlog 3 hours ago||
You really think there aren’t an equal number of Claude influencers on social media?
Chance-Device 3 hours ago|||
Yes, I think there aren’t an equivalent number of Claude influencers on social media.

Is there an equivalent headline for Anthropic of this?: https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-open-ai-influencer-ma...

binlog 2 hours ago||
Takes 2 minutes to search for news beyond the HN front page - https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/06/google-microsoft-pay-creator... https://www.inc.com/georgia-fearn/openai-anthropic-both-cour...

https://www.businessinsider.com/emma-orhun-canceled-claude-p...

> Anthropic’s head of influencer, Lexie Barnhorn, has described creators as essential to building trust in complicated technical products. Its strategy is partly consumer-to-business: People who adopt Claude personally may later introduce it in their workplaces.

> Anthropic’s best-known creator events have been smaller dinners and pop-ups in which Claude remained the ostensible subject.

Chance-Device 2 hours ago||
The point I am making is if these companies are going to compete and spend more and more money for PR, then they should do it in a way that benefits society, which paying influencers does not do.

Let me know when OpenAI starts actively trying to cure diseases.

foxrider 3 hours ago|||
Personally I feel like Anthropic is underrepresented in "normie" marketing, all of my non-tech savy friends only know of ChatGPT and use "ChatGPT" in the same way my mom says "Nintendo" when talking about game consoles
binlog 2 hours ago||
On the other hand Anthropic has a monopoly on the vibe coder/tech influencer/“podcast bro” market. Claude has been pushed very hard in that ecosystem.
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