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Posted by alvis 13 hours ago

Dots: Always-on agents(openai.com)
530 points | 397 commentspage 12
TheAtomic 12 hours ago|
That might be the worst advert I've ever seen. People looking up at childish Ai glow up god beings on huge screens in distinctly childish environments, with cliched decision-makers gasping for West Wing energy...repulsive.
hangrybear666 12 hours ago||
These recent product announcements sound like entirely plausible satire, but unfortunately most of these pages are not actually intended to be a joke, it's not even amusing, but mostly tiring.
itzikkatz 12 hours ago||
Grok-bot 2.0
waterTanuki 2 hours ago||
Early on in my career as a software engineer, I was told by my managers that I had to sell my ideas as an elevator pitch to get anywhere. If I couldn't explain why a feature or fix would improve the business, it would go into the wastebin.

Colour me surprised then when I see, since circa 2024, an absolute deluge of AI products coming from these companies, each with their own naming scheme, marketing page, and accompanying hype post, and despite giving them MORE than the 30 second elevator pitch interval, I am left not understanding what it is they want to sell me. I have claude, I have codex, I get my work done just fine with each. I don't need another product for this. Any software these companies try pushing always ends up being something I could've made with their own AI models in a day and then never end up using. What's the end game here? What's the goal? What's the moat? I'm not sold on a single product outside of codex and claude code.

exe34 11 hours ago||
It's a labour saving device. Just like you would use a dish washer to do the tedious work of washing dishes, use a vcr to watch tedious television for you, and an electric monk to believe things for you, you can now use an agent to doomscroll for you.
daveguy 11 hours ago||
They must have edited out the 1 in 5 times the agents crap the bed and mess up something important.
esafak 12 hours ago||
I have not tried it yet but this looks as risky as openclaw, which I also won't use. What if it does something I would not have approved and I only found out about it later? Knowing how often agents go off the rails when I'm coding, I would hesitate to let one do other tasks. I would prefer to white list tasks one at a time as I gained trust.
petesergeant 12 hours ago||
I spend literally all my work day, and a good bit of my personal time, talking to agents, getting them to do things on my behalf. Almost always pretty tightly sandboxed. I just don't understand how people using these things haven't had catastrophic failures yet.

I minted what I thought was a minimal-permission Github token for a single action, and the agent I gave it to discovered it had more permissions than I thought, and made use of those permissions. Who is trusting these things with write access to their lives?

AspireOne 6 hours ago||
I have the opposite approach to you.

- AI is sitting on my two personal servers as root with unrestricted access to everything. I task them with deploying stuff, checking and patching security holes, reconfiguring the firewall, etcetera. It literally never failed at anything, didn't go "off the rails", didn't break anything.

- The other day, in order to deploy a fork of Plane.so, I gave an AI an full-permission token to my Coolify, to my Cloudflare account (so it could change DNS and Tunnel settings), and unrestricted SSH access to my server and to my browser via the Playwright Chrome extension. No issues.

- I have AI running unrestricted on my computer doing all kinds of stuff.

I literally never had any issues with this approach. Not a single one. I don't think there's as much of a need for sandboxing as some people would like to believe.

petesergeant 51 minutes ago||
It is always interesting to get another perspective, and I’ve also found agents to be very good at sysadmin work, including Coolify! But again, I very tightly control what agent has access to what.

Maybe you’re lucky, or maybe the examples I’ve seen (and experienced) of agent overreach are particularly unlucky. I guess at this point it’s about personal comfort level, and mine doesn’t support that type of unfettered access yet.

solooperator1 11 hours ago||
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glub 13 hours ago|
So essentially, another attempt at giving codex to regular people.
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