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Posted by bradleyg223 5 hours ago

Gemini 4 Argon(blog.google)
See also: Gemini 4 Argon (High): Intelligence, Performance and Price Analysis - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49914236
954 points | 647 commentspage 6
kccqzy 5 hours ago|
Unfortunately it’s not actually released yet to mere mortals.
rao-v 5 hours ago||
It’s funny that I could tell google was up to something because Gemini chat quality dropped dramatically starting 2ish weeks ago. Agy perf stayed somewhat stable with the odd surprising win (maybe the new model?). I’m a bit sad it was almost impossible to run out of antigravity quota presumably because it was not being used that much).
giancarlostoro 2 hours ago||
I want a level down from this, will we get the next level down with reasonably good competitive specs?
small_model 1 hour ago||
5 points off Opus 5.5 on AA, not a good release. Falling behind and not able to catchup. Ant probably has opus 6 in the works. Fumbled so hard on this, they should have owned AI.
treefry 3 hours ago||
The benchmark scores are not exciting. I understand Google is playing a catch up game right now, but still wish to see some overwhelming improvements.
woko 3 hours ago|
Gemini 4 Argon (High) looks comparable to Claude Opus 5.5 (High). https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/comparisons/gemini-4-ar... From that perspective, the benchmark is not too disappointing, given that there are only 8 days between the blog posts (September 30 vs. September 22).
Jimmc414 4 hours ago||
I wish we had started pacing the frontier back in 2025. There’s no telling how far we would be now.
throwitaway222 3 hours ago||
While this is exciting - I have no clue when/if I will be able to use this. Unlike OpenAI or Anthropic where a model release announcement == GA.
dlahoda 5 hours ago||
Were infinite loops fixed? There are 2 official google forums requests with no answer for years now. I still suffer each day on our repo. Codex work fine nor we have explicit loop request in repo texts.
glub 3 hours ago|
Looks like they finally got the solution. Now they won't cause an error at 64k tokens anymore:

> expanding the model’s output token limit to an industry-leading 1M tokens, up from the previous 64K tokens

maxglute 4 hours ago||
Is there reason antigravity has 3.8, 3.7, 3.6, 3.1 and old ass claude / gpt models in the drop down. like why is this not streamlined or deprecaed models removed.
zergrush 4 hours ago|
Tough to compete against your own stake in Anthropic and they just filed for IPO. Not digging Google as a result of this, they are holding back.
xnx 4 hours ago|
Google's stake in Google is even bigger.
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