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Posted by bradleyg223 8 hours ago

Gemini 4 Argon(blog.google)
See also: Gemini 4 Argon (High): Intelligence, Performance and Price Analysis - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49914236
1070 points | 720 commentspage 9
dcchambers 7 hours ago|
Of course it's not even available yet. Google - with all due respect - how in the world have you not figured this out yet?
avazhi 2 hours ago||
Google attempting to put itself into the frontier conversation simply by saying so is actual lol-inducing. Gemini has been laughably bad for like 9 months now.
tinco 7 hours ago||
So here's a crazy conspiracy theory for you: Google is not letting outside people use their models because if they did they would have to scale up their TPU production faster than they can manage, and they would instead have to buy and use nvidia hardware which would destroy their profit margins and tank their stock.

Gemini runs fully on TPU's right? Is Google maxing out the production on those?

oh_no 7 hours ago||
i believe they've got inference issue. the phone app never got past 3.6, and they're going to roll this out to Ultra subscribers before other subscribers. none of this screams they're ready to flip a switch and start serving a ton of traffic as OpenAI/Anthropic routinely do.

nothing about this announcement gives me confidence that google is back on track as a model provider.

p_l 6 hours ago||
Not sure what's the problem with phone app rollout, mine has 3.1 Pro, 3.5 Flash-Lite, and 3.8 Flash (with optional extra effort), and pretty much it switched to latest Flash series as main option since 3.5 just after release
chermi 7 hours ago||
I'm 99% they use nvidia at least for training
LoganDark 8 hours ago||
Is there a way to use Gemini models without linking your usage to your personal Google account yet?
w4yai 7 hours ago||
I don't understand... Why don't you create a fresh new Google account ?
LoganDark 7 hours ago||
They require a phone number and then say mine has been used for too many accounts. Maybe I could buy another phone number temporarily to create an account, but that has other issues.
lukax 7 hours ago|||
Yes, through OpenRouter.
alehlopeh 7 hours ago||
Use your work google account
landdate 3 hours ago||
I don't like AI, but it's very enjoyable for me to see my predictions on the success of gemini come to fruition.

I only use gemini, and while I don't use it for actually writing up code, I use it to help me troibleshoot my logic and help find bugs. Its easily the best model I have tried. And yes I am talking about 3.1 pro.

Also I have found gemini the only model to be the least likely to douse me in flattery, and will follow my pre built instructions to never output anything unless it can be directly sourced, pretty well. Chatgpt i tried for a bit and it was by far the worst thing I have ever used. I can understand why people develop psychosis when prompting chatgpt because it is disgustingly scyophantic to the point I was grossed out and felt like I just got done with some other type of self gratification.

Anyway, death to AI. All those who use, create, facilitate, or even just sit by and do nothing in the face of AI will perish in Hell.

osiris970 8 hours ago||
Hopefully their harnesses aren't unusable when they release this
Heidaradar 7 hours ago||
Wonder if it's benchmaxxed or not (guessing yes)
retropragma 7 hours ago||
they really ought to add ACP support. until then, it's a no go. i'm not going to use their TUI or their VSCode fork
bananaflag 8 hours ago||
I wonder how it will be at solving open math problems.
piratebroadcast 4 hours ago|
When Antigravity first came out, when I installed it, it made itself the default application to open all programming file types.... .txt. json, csv, you name it. It was absolutely infuriating and took me a month to put everything back to normal. So they've lost a lot of trust with me.
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