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Posted by paveworld 21 hours ago

Tell HN: Bob Cringely has died

I heard from a friend of the family that Bob passed away in his sleep early Saturday. Very sad news. Bob, who's real name was Mark Stevens, was an early employee of Apple and was best known for his PBS documentaries, especially "Triumph of the Nerds". He will be missed.
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tjansen 12 hours ago|
Damn. I've loved Bob and his writings ever since I read Accidental Empires as a kid. He went through some crazy shit over the last few years (lost his house, almost blind). And when he started blogging again this year (https://www.cringely.com/2026/05/27/where-the-heck-have-i-be...), the stories got even worse (lost his son, heart attack, stroke). RIP.
luu 3 hours ago||
He went through some crazy shit over the last few years (lost his house, almost blind)

https://www.jeremyreimer.com/rockets-item.lsp?f=true&p=272 makes it sound like the "crazy shit over the last few years" wasn't rue.

The post makes a strong case that the cataracts story and the losing his house story were false, among others.

If you're wondering why someone would make things like this up, it appears that they were cover stories for his Mineserver Kickstarter never shipping despite him saying "[i]n terms of development, this project was almost finished before the Kickstarter campaign began", "[a]ll these Mineservers will ship this week. Software is complete and SD cards are being duplicated. T-shirts are being printed every night", etc.

If it sounds unbelievable that someone would make these things up to have something to blame for a failed kickstarter, I recommend reading the post. The evidence against the house burning down is hard to argue with (later Google Maps/Street View imaging shows no apparent damage, in a later post he accidentally revealed that he used the exact laptop that he said he replaced because it was lost in the fire) and there's even stronger evidence that a number of his other claims are fabricated.

jmathai 7 hours ago|||
> I was the chief architect, in over my head despite starting at the Stanford Artificial Intelligence Lab back in 1978.

I used to read his articles back a decade ago. I really enjoyed them. This quote from the article resonated with me. It’s a sobering feeling having dedicated a career to the field to struggle keeping up.

RIP. He seemed to face a lot of struggles both physically and emotionally towards the end of his life.

adfm 2 hours ago||
"The Stanford Artificial Intelligence Laboratory (SAIL) has been a center of excellence for Artificial Intelligence research, teaching, theory, and practice since its founding in 1963."

https://ai.stanford.edu/

mahrain 8 hours ago|||
Reminded me of John C Dvorak, same generation, had a heart attack in April then died in July...
yard2010 8 hours ago|||
This is heart breaking. I can't imagine going through all of this. I wish the best for his family now <3
embedding-shape 12 hours ago|||
I hope they're both sitting and reading and learning together now, wherever they may be. I never caught this update but remember thinking about what he was up to some year ago, really sad all around. Rest in peace and I hope they're both remembered for a long time, I sure will.
piker 12 hours ago||
Jesus. That is gut wrenching.
JKCalhoun 19 hours ago||
I liked his "Plane Crazy: Building a Plane in 30 Days" on PBS.

Watching him try (and fail) to build a composite airplane says so much about the allure of modern techniques (I won't spoil the end, but old-school gets the last laugh). I've been less than enthusiastic about modern composites ever since seeing this show.

Bob's attempt (and short temper) reveals a good deal of hubris on his part.

The documentary is a fascinating failure and a masterclass in attempting to salvage a show when the whole premise for the show completely collapses.

[1] https://youtu.be/FSNzF-KSGiw

glimshe 9 hours ago||
This is an amazing show.

If you're familiar with it, maybe you could answer one question: Cringely sourced a lot of the materials and know-how for the plane from American companies and workers. Would that be possible today?

LarsDu88 15 hours ago|||
Wow, I have a hazy memory of seeing this when I was a kid. Shocked I would ever see this again on HN of all places.
sho_hn 4 hours ago||
> Shocked I would ever see this again on HN of all places

Wouldn't HN be one of the most likely places?

oakmad 13 hours ago|||
Watching now… wow what a throw back. Got a kick out of the 90s PBS vibe and the Chicago news! Thanks for posting
thx 16 hours ago|||
thanks for posting <3 this is great
jakzurr 16 hours ago||
Yup, saw this vid decades ago. It still seems like yesterday.
lukan 15 hours ago||
"Watching him try (and fail) to build a composite airplane "

But the plane did fly.

moffkalast 9 hours ago||
> I love how after the debacle of Bob trying to make his own plane, the producers had to salvage the entire production by buying him a kit plane and filming him hang out a few hours at the factory acting like he was actually building the thing when really he was just getting in the way of the workers while grandstanding

The top comment lays it out as it is, lmao. And it was far more than 30 days as well.

1potato 9 minutes ago||
If true, this is very sad. I’ve read Cringely’s work for around 20 years — not as long as some here, I’m sure — and always appreciated the perspective of someone who had been involved in the industry in some capacity since the beginning.

Unfortunately, the site became more difficult to read in later years when it turned out that a lot of what he was saying was evidently false. Even more so when he switched over to AI-generated content.

Still, Triumph is an amazing documentary that I’ve watched many, many times.

tuna74 9 hours ago||
He was a very entertaining blogger! RIP.

However, he was also ripping people off and making up stuff: https://www.jeremyreimer.com/rockets-item.lsp?f=true&p=272

soniman 4 hours ago|
It was his kids running a Mineserver Kickstarter. If you fund a bunch of kids on Kickstarter never seeing a finished project are very high. Cringely and his kids obviously made a good faith effort.
tuna74 3 hours ago||
Read the linked article.

It is OK to fail. It is not OK to continuously lye to people who have provided you with money (or anyone else for that matter).

mday404 3 hours ago||
Yeah when you have backers imploring you to just admit defeat honestly, you’ve reached a whole different level of Kickstarter failure
kickingvegas 15 hours ago||
Rest in peace Robert X. Cringely. For those interested, the documentary "Triumph of the Nerds" is available on the Internet Archive. https://archive.org/details/triumph_of_the_nerds
cellularmitosis 13 hours ago||
I first learned of the concept of “buffer bloat” from him, and how artificially limiting your upload bandwidth a bit can avoid huge lag spikes https://www.cringely.com/2011/01/04/2011-predictions-one-wor...
Bluecobra 1 hour ago|||
Also highly recommend watching Nerds 2.0.1 - A Brief History Of The Internet as well: https://archive.org/details/nerds-2.0.1-a-brief-history-of-t...
jamal-kumar 10 hours ago|||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmbrFFP7bXU

Here's a fun clip. I think this company is the one which eventually became the one behind the excite search engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf4SKkTEkfU

I think this is also a clip from the same documentary. We had to watch this as part of IT class in high school, everyone laughed pretty hard

jpollock 11 hours ago|||
I loved this documentary. It really captured what I loved about this job.
logicalmind 22 minutes ago||
Same here. I found it highly inspiring as a young developer. Whenever I lacked motivation in my career, I would rewatch it.
leoc 2 hours ago|||
Around the time that Triumph of the Nerds came out in 1995 I saw the segment in which Cringely introduces the audience to someone he builds up as "the most dangerous man in Silicon Valley" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP15q-s1yMM . When it was revealed to be Steve Jobs I—a teenage Macintosh fanboy!—thought "what, that has-been? How ridiculous."
DonHopkins 13 hours ago||
Not to be confused as the other Triumph of the Attack of the Clones and Nerd of the Rings:

https://youtu.be/YKT7bx-fmtk?t=77

DANmode 1 hour ago||
Might as well throw Revenge of the Nerds on the “avoid confusion with” pile, lol
icee 16 hours ago||
I was a big fan of this guy's work. Great documentaries. Triumph of the Nerds was a great watch — I gifted this to several people. I also watch the lost Steve Jobs documentary every few years for inspiration. Accidental Empires was a great read — I always think of Larry Ellison doing the NYT Crossword puzzle when I read about all the Paramount drama. He'll be missed.
dewarrn1 5 hours ago||
A shame. I encountered his work in a couple of places (with the caveat that I don't know which Cringely was which):

PBS website: He wrote a column that their site no longer hosts, but the Wayback Machine has it snapshotted frequently, including just after his final submission for the outlet in 2008: https://web.archive.org/web/20081223220604/http://www.pbs.or...

NerdTV: In an era of nascent web video, he produced long-form video interviews with tech types, and clipped what might now be called "Shorts/Tiktoks" from the conversations, pulling out the of "the juicy bit" and "the nerdy bit". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NerdTV (h/t to u/Keyframe)

And obliquely, Cringely's columns or videos were the first place I recall hearing about foveated approaches to video compression for streaming. I thought it sounded like a terrible idea, but I guess Valve delivered, 20 years on, using the technique to good effect with the Steam Frame. Chalk one up for Cringely; RIP.

acomjean 7 hours ago||
Sad.

Early employee at Apple who was offered to be paid in stock. He “held out for the cash”.

I really like the triumph of the nerds series. Getting bill Gates, Balmer, Jobs and those IBMers to explain how it all came together and how MS who didn’t have an OS ended up getting one to sell to IBM.

The transcripts are a good

https://www.pbs.org/nerds/transcript.html

tuna74 3 hours ago||
He just lied about that.
xhkkffbf 7 hours ago||
He traded early Apple stock for cash? Oh, there aren't many acts so foolish in hindsight.
acomjean 5 hours ago|||
Offered to be paid with stock, took the cash. As someone who’s first startup is no long in business, and having cash in hand is appealing..

But yeah..

“well for a short time I was an employee of Apple Computer, employee number 12 and one day I helped move materials out of this garage. At the time Steve Jobs said that the company was short of loot so he offered to pay me in company shares, but I held out for the money - my mother still reminds me of that incident.”

smugma 4 hours ago||
Daniel Kottke was Employee #12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Kottke
ndiddy 1 hour ago||
Cringely says here that he worked part-time at Apple for a few months as a graduate student: https://www.pbs.org/nerds/qa4.html . Mark Stephens was at Stanford at the time (he earned his master's in communication in 1979) so this lines up. I think it's entirely possible that Cringely/Stephens was in fact the 12th person hired by Apple, but didn’t get a formal employee number because he wasn't a full-time employee.
JeremyReimer 1 hour ago||
But Cringely stated on Triumph of the Nerds that he was literally "Employee #12". Other than this statement of his, there are no other sources to confirm that this was true. There's a very comprehensive list of early Apple employees with evidence to back them up here: https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_early_Apple_Computer_e...

Mark Stephens does not appear anywhere in this list, nor have any other early employees confirmed that he worked there.

Yes, this might have just been a small slip-up on Cringely's part, but the trouble is that he continued to make claims about being employed by Apple that were clearly fabricated. For example, Cringely claimed to have invented the Lisa's trash can icon in this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06M64l7pPIk&t=373s but if you read about the same story from other Apple employees, they don't mention him at all: https://folklore.org/Rosings_Rascals.html

These "tall tales" start to add up, and it becomes very hard to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Cringely was a great writer, a great documentarian, and really wonderful at finding the human stories behind the giants of the personal computer industry. Unfortunately, he also often made up stories about himself that were later found to be untrue. He didn't need to do this, because his work stood on its own. It was just a flaw in his personality.

In any case, this is sad news. Rest in peace, Mark Stephens.

usefulcat 5 hours ago|||
Hindsight is a whole other country.
gramie 5 hours ago||
My favourite article he wrote was "Stranger in a Strange Land", about Homer Sarasohn (not Deming) rebuilding the Japanese electronics industry -- and to some extent, culture! -- after the war.

https://web.archive.org/web/20001015151303/http://www.pbs.or...

tomaskafka 2 hours ago|
Thank you! I just read it and can’t help but seeing the exact same story played out in Apple in China.

You can ask you favorite LLM to compare the parallels; I did and it was enlightening.

exitb 17 hours ago|
Incredibly sad news. I first learned of him and watched his documentaries just a few years ago. It’s difficult to understate, if you happen to be a tech nerd, how much fun “Triumph of the Nerds” and “Nerds 2.0.1” are to watch, even nowadays.
AlanYx 5 hours ago||
Definitely. His book "Accidental Empires" (subtitled "How the Boys of Silicon Valley Make Their Millions, Battle Foreign Competition, and Still Can't Get a Date") is also an incredibly fun read, and a glimpse into a lost era. If anyone likes the true story of the guy sneaking into vintage Apple to develop Graphing Calculator out of pure passion, you'll love Accidental Empires.

(Just realized I've never read the 1996 update/revision. Adding it to the top of my list.)

gjvc 15 hours ago||
"overstate"
jagged-chisel 6 hours ago||
Maybe they meant it wasn’t at all fun. Likely incorrect, but never assume.
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