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Posted by joshuawright11 3 hours ago

GPT‑6 and Intelligent UI for everyone(openai.com)
354 points | 168 comments
revolvingthrow 2 hours ago|
I find the Sunday roast comparison of 5.6 vs 6 very interesting. I have no doubt most people will prefer 6, yet I am almost repulsed by all the images, so much needless whitespace, checklist and so on. Feels like I'm being condescended to and treated like a child.

Given that OpenAI is making noises about merging work with chat (a horrible idea imo), and Work is very similar to Codex... I dearly hope things like these won't have any meaningful cross-polination into the actual work tools.

Seeing that the chat is based on 6.0 and not 6.1 is disappointing. The "Visual and interactive explanations" seems genuinely useful, but 6.1 is just so much better. I wouldn't truly trust the 6.1 with the explanations, but I'd trust them a fair bit more than 6.0. I understand that compute isn't infinite, but tons of people only interact with the chat and having your "things-explainer" be as good as it can be is important when people increasingly treat AI models as the source of truth, or even use them for academic learning and whatnot.

Still, the models will improve, so the visual explainer seems pretty good as an idea / mvp.

sunaookami 52 minutes ago||
It's designed so that ads can be more easily integrated and make them harder to spot.
usef- 18 minutes ago||
Maybe, but it's a reality that most of the general public do prefer cookbooks with pictures. I suspect openai would end up doing this anyway just by targeting the general consumer. It's configurable.

I'm more worried about picture accuracy: usually the benefit of pictures in recipes is to see what you're aiming at (eg, how finely chopped something is), but I don't know if the image model is up to that level of detail.

a123b456c 7 minutes ago||
> most of the general public do prefer cookbooks with pictures

As a highly literate person, it is easy to overestimate the share of the population that is highly literate.

zug_zug 2 hours ago|||
Yeah it reminds me of one those obnoxious recipe/biography websites that is the laughingstock of the internet. Why would I possibly want an AI image of a imaginary roast once I'm already at the recipe stage?

Kinda just feels like google search results in AI, which imo is a step down from distilled information. Chatgpt is already able to generate charts and visuals upon request.

dominotw 1 hour ago||
They just need to train the model to make up stories about how the recipe was invented by its great grandmother during great depression and generate a ai picture of dusty recipie book .
cush 1 hour ago|||
> Feels like I'm being condescended to and treated like a child

Curious why that feels condescending? Like, the average person who is seeking a recipe needs a photo to know what to shoot for

michaelt 57 seconds ago||
> Like, the average person who is seeking a recipe needs a photo to know what to shoot for

The menu: Rosemary and garlic roast lamb, Extra-crispy roast potatoes, Honey-roasted carrots and parsnips, broccoli.

The photo: [1] Roast turkey, mashed potatoes, baby carrots, broccoli, brussels sprouts. No lamb, no parsnips.

Also I gotta make an apple crumble with no flour, no sugar, and no butter. Only apples, as they're the only thing on the shopping list.

[1] https://images.openai.com/static-rsc-4/gyzrX8zp3O2KLEPm0FAqh...

AlphaSite 1 hour ago|||
You can always tell it your preferences and ask it to remember them if you need it to.
361994752 2 hours ago|||
I really hope they don't merge chat and work. That's kinda the only edge they have over Anthropic at this time point...
scrollop 2 hours ago|||
Tibo posted yesterday I think it was that this will happen (by the end of the year, was it?)

Prepare to lose essentially unlimited chat mode.

I imagine many will move to claude, as I will (return), unless anthropic makes more blunders.

Random link I found looking for the twitter post

https://pasqualepillitteri.it/en/news/21024/openai-merge-cha...

TuxSH 2 hours ago||
It's insane how hard OAI is choking, they had much better models than A/ who were fumbling this year to date... then blunder after blunder.

The only things that OAI still have over A/ are better coding agent GUI, no 5hr limit on >$100, much more reasonable cybersec guardrails (that allow most RE work) and... that's it.

ElijahLynn 24 minutes ago||
From my point of view, as software engineer who is extensively used Claude Code and ChatGPT from the beginning, OpenAI is nailing it!
ulimn 1 hour ago|||
I am curious: Why is it bad to merge chat and work? In Claude I didn't have a porblem with it (although I switched to an OpenAI subscription shortly after they made the merge). Isn't the model capable of deciding if it needs the extra capabilities of Work?
ImprobableTruth 1 hour ago||
The current benefit is that chat has no quota.
ModernMech 18 minutes ago||
There is a quota, they just don’t tell you what it is and when it resets. You only get “you’re all out of pro messages, try again later”
joe_the_user 2 hours ago||
I don't like either. I'd want a recipe that could fit on a single page with type. Recipes you find on Google actively hide the ingredient list and simple procedures to get more of the user's time to monetize but I don't know why ChatGPT needs to be verbose here. Recipes are simple things. Simple search solved find recipes back in the early 2000s and it's prime example of a thing people have been enshitifying since there's not much to really give people beyond the formula. And sure, every entrepreneur screams "they think they want a formula but really they want an experience" but, no I don't.
bananaflag 2 hours ago||
https://based.cooking/
mortenjorck 2 hours ago||
Of everything that could be automated, Bartosz Ciechanowski really was the last on my list.

In all seriousness, his lovingly and expertly crafted explainers are still going to age like a handcrafted heirloom clock in a world of plastic-clad quartz movements. But it’s absolutely incredible that we are now in an age where a computer can manufacture a serviceable interactive explainer on whatever niche topic you desire.

FLeXMurphy 2 hours ago||
The reason why B.C. became a thing is because the art of drafting died from CAD. The attention to detail, the minutae of walking the reader through a highly sophisticated thing was replaced by short-form video explanations. His work is very much a callback to the days of old. So too, is his turn to be relegated to a relic of his time.
bayindirh 2 hours ago||
Also, it's hand coded WebGL. It's smooth, faultless and has no peers.

> So too, is his turn to be relegated to a relic of his time.

No, it'll be tasteful artifact, not a relic. Records, fountain pens and automatic watches did not die. They are used by people who discern things, and no, none of these things have to be expensive (i.e. Neither Seiko 5, nor Lamy Safari are expensive, yet they are as dependable as their 100x expensive brethren).

Human touch still has that finesse and warmth.

FLeXMurphy 1 hour ago||
>and has no peers.

On the front page right now - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49980626

bayindirh 1 hour ago||
That's impressive, yes, and kudos to them.

OTOH, I still believe the exploded view on https://ciechanow.ski/mechanical-watch/ is something else.

For one, it has real physics on the weight, and second it always shows the correct/current time.

FWIW, his all animations has proper physics to begin with.

The entry you posted is nice, but Ciechanowski is still peerless.

brcmthrowaway 2 hours ago|||
He's at openai
Game_Ender 1 hour ago|||
Do you have source for that?
jdprgm 1 hour ago|||
funny if true. ironically just last week i was asking chatgpt about what happened to him and why there were no new blog posts for almost 2 years and it had no idea
customguy 1 hour ago||
Nothing in that "7‑Speed Bicycle" is specific to having 7 speeds. It might as well have said "Bicycle", and even then you get meaningless slop "Made to keep rolling" and "A strong foundation". How can you compare this to Ciechanowski?

You call it serviceable, but what purpose does this service? What do you now know about 7-speed bicycles that you didn't know before?

xpct 3 hours ago||
I've had the most success with GPT explaining things to me by making it take a few sentences at a time back and forth, instead of reading full write-ups of whatever I asked. It also often poisons the conversation if it misunderstood some part of the question, and I can lead it better by continuously questioning its statements. It's also more engaging that way.

I've been learning music lately and it kept re-pasting the same one chord visualization throughout many conversations, almost randomly and often barely related to the question. So I at least hope this won't be as aggressive so I can prompt it away!

redman25 18 minutes ago|
Id love to learn what prompts you’re using to do that. Explanations one at a time. Thats something I’ve thought would be helpful before but didn’t know how to achieve it.
giancarlostoro 2 hours ago||
I'm not a fan of OpenAI / Sam Altman, but I love their blog posts. The team and whoever decides how to do these presentations, is on point. The only other company that has amazing release pages like this is Apple, I think I remember hearing that they probably hired someone from apple who used to do release blog posts there too.

What's funny about "Intelligent UI" is I said like 2 or more years ago, that these AI companies need to start thinking outside of these basic chat UIs, they do some things here and there, but its really depressing how little they do to innovate in these spaces. Same with the coding harnesses, the UI for all these things could be drastically superior.

ChrisMarshallNY 1 hour ago||
> probably hired someone from apple

Fairly likely: https://medium.com/the-engineering-brief/openai-hired-400-ap...

mi_lk 2 hours ago|||
You could say the same thing about Anthropic because I don't really see much differences. Not sure about amazing part but both are high quality and I probably like Anthropic's aesthetic more
fasterik 1 hour ago||
Anthropic's aesthetic looks good by pre-AI design standards, but it's so overused now that I find it off-putting. It's like the 2026 equivalent of the Twitter bootstrap CSS from 15 years ago.
hatthew 47 minutes ago||
I feel like today's tailwind is the spiritual equivalent to last decade's bootstrap. Except that last decade's bootstrap webpages have a human behind them who usually put thought and effort into making the page useful and correct, whereas today's tailwind pages are often vibe coded slop with all the associated issues.
tencentshill 2 hours ago|||
Why did they bother hiring someone to write at all? I certainly wouldn't invest $1T into a company with so little confidence in their product. When the chips are down and they need to write something important, they DON'T use AI?
onion2k 1 hour ago|||
Obviously everyone at Anthropic uses a ton of AI in everything. The point here is that they clearly use it well, and that they use it as a tool to augment and enhance what they do rather than as a replacement for effort. The blog posts don't read like the output of a prompt because they're probably the output of dozens of prompts, rewritten and edited, by someone who's using AI to actually write something worth reading.

Anyone can having blog posts as good as this by using AI. Just not by zero-shotting it with a 2 line prompt. It still takes a lot of work.

apsurd 2 hours ago|||
That's just picking a fight. Whatever we think about how amazing or terrible AI is, it's pretty reasonable to understand it is quite literally the weighted average of humanity's output.

Also reasonable: it's possible to hire a world-class ___ to do that job better than AI.

ianbutler 1 hour ago|||
It's not a weighted average though. I see this repeated all the time. Between synthetic data, custom produced training data by experts, post-training regimes etc the models are far more diverged from that baseline at this point, at this point it's mostly a right shifted curve.
apsurd 1 hour ago||
I hesitated to write that line because I don't know the math. So thanks for clarifying. Main point is the output is along some distribution and I'd say AI-evangelist themselves see "good enough" across everything and anything as a feature.
cyanydeez 1 hour ago|||
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dcchambers 1 hour ago|||
> these AI companies need to start thinking outside of these basic chat UIs, they do some things here and there, but its really depressing how little they do to innovate in these spaces. Same with the coding harnesses, the UI for all these things could be drastically superior.

I would prefer if the AI companies stuck to just creating better models and making them as cheap and accessible as possible. Let others build the products. I don't want 1-2 companies to own every product in the world.

xg15 1 hour ago||
> I don't want 1-2 companies to own every product in the world.

That seems to be the plan...

timacles 1 hour ago||
That’s the plan for … capitalism

Buckle up boys

goatlover 1 hour ago||
Sounds rather late stage.
Foobar8568 1 hour ago||
Well, like 30 years ago, a French comedy show had foreseen it, the "World Company" buying everything, no need to understand French to understand the "joke" at the end https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4du7uh
lrpe 2 hours ago|||
I take the opposite viewpoint. I think pages like these are horrible, and a demonstration that web designers have too many tools at their disposal.

But this is just a marketing page for some tech company, right? If only it stopped there. I have to deal with this nonsense in news "articles" as well on occasion, when some web designer intern is allowed to larp as a journalist for a day.

sigh Just give me text to read.

mikestorrent 1 hour ago||
Sometimes you want more than text. This is one of the interesting divides these days - and I say this as someone who spends a lot of time in the terminal. Computer interfaces and interaction did not peak with the VT-100. Sometimes, there is a very legitimate need to show tables, graphics, interesting graphs, and to use colour and shade to draw the eye and lead someone through an experience.

This is why I use an IDE instead of a TUI agent... I'm on a computer with a multi-megapixel display, I want to use it. If I could be driving the same process with my Macintosh SE as a serial terminal, what the hell is the point of my recent Macbook?

lrpe 48 minutes ago|||
You say tables, graphics, graphs, and colors, but I mean things that move when they don't need to move and interfere with expected UI behaviour, like arbitrarily staying in one position when I am using my mouse wheel to scroll downwards.

I should have been more precise than saying "just give me text", but it was what came in to mind when I wrote it, as I was thinking about what an article is meant to contain as its base element.

rfgplk 2 hours ago|||
Mate this is like half a prompt of GPT-6
lukewarm707 1 hour ago|||
"The apocalypse will be televised"
Shorel 1 hour ago|||
I think the point is not how good this blog post is as if it was written by a human, but that this blog post is entirely generated by the GPT-6 model.

So this is a taste of the slop that's going to invade everywhere in a few months.

120492751 2 hours ago||
I don't know. This is an amateur page with a bad AI video and chaotic presentation. It is ten levels below Apple announcements.
jjcm 2 hours ago||
I've been calling this "disposable UI" or "paper plate UI", eg something meant to be used once. One thing I'll be curious about is overzealousness to produce this, when sometimes what you want is just a simple response. Overall though I'm a big fan of it, if it can be provided fast enough. I'd be curious on how much impact it has on latency of a response.
rc-1140 23 minutes ago||
Burning question: why is this worth paying for as a layman? I can sometimes find a use for all these LLMs for software development, but I can never find a good use for any of this outside of "slightly better search engine".
invalidOrTaken 7 minutes ago|
As a complete layman---not worth it. We live just fine. Medical researchers slave night and day to keep you healthy.

But if you have any ambition at all---if you want to map the local school board, or get a quick understanding of your finances, or set up a robot in your backyard---then, quickly proves useful.

xnickb 2 hours ago||
Funny to see a blog post about UI from one of the most funded tech companies in the world, yet the player has about the worst UI possible:

- Audio volume has 2 levels: on and off

- Play button worked exactly once for me: it played and looped the video. Couldn't be stopped afterwards.

- The video progress bar has no visual indication of where it starts and where it ends..

Is this what Phind died for?

dist-epoch 1 hour ago|
Hate it or not, the only site which has usable video player is YouTube.

Even TV channels like CNN and FoxNews don't have a decent one.

It's like we need ASI to have a proper embedded video player. The ultimate software challenge.

virtuosarmo 2 hours ago||
This seems like a way for them to surface ads in ChatGPT. They just came out with visual ad format option for advertisers a couple of days ago: https://openai.com/index/new-chatgpt-ads-format-and-measurem...
csharpminor 32 minutes ago||
Thank god. My primary use of ChatGPT is meal planning and while it’s great for recording, recipe lookup, etc I always just wanted it to be able to make checkable grocery lists.

I eventually just had it make a skill for work mode that would build a mini checklist app, but it was slow and felt janky needing to remember to switch to work mode.

This is already such a huge improvement.

sroussey 24 minutes ago|
I wrote something like this, though not quite as slick, by having the model use json schema to describe its results instead of text, and then use a json-schema to ui interface.
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