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Posted by Anon84 12 hours ago

Nobel Peace Prize for 2026 to Navanethem Pillay(www.nobelprize.org)
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nxobject 9 hours ago|
I'll be amused to see how the administration reacts. Perhaps we'll end up having the Trump Prizes.
elias_t 8 hours ago||
Apparently they just imposed sanctions on the ICC, not sure it’s related but it’s a strange coincidence [0]

[0] US imposes sanctions on ICC hours after former judge wins Nobel Peace Prize - https://www.reuters.com/world/us-imposes-sanctions-internati...

ourmandave 6 hours ago||
Apropo to nothing, Jack Smith, who is teed up to try Trump for the Jan 6 insurrection, was an investigation coordinator for ICC.

Probably nothing to do with it.

netsharc 9 hours ago|||
Satire is mostly dead in this world of clownocracy, but someone should prank-call FIFA and ask them who's the winner of this year's FIFA Peace Prize...
nxobject 7 hours ago||
I don’t know which would be funnier: either (a) Trump wins the Peace Prize for a second year in a row, or (b) they go down the designated survivor list of succession…
lostlogin 1 hour ago||
I’ve had a look to see if they have a contact email as I’d like to ask them about this years award. I can’t find one.

https://www.fifa.com/en

hgoel 9 hours ago||
I've been thinking that part of the point of handing out a bunch of science prizes to the techbros yesterday was to try to overshadow the Nobel prizes.
josu 9 hours ago||
> in 2019 she became an ad hoc judge on the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the case in which Myanmar stands accused of genocide.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/2026/pillay/facts/

I wonder who committed said genocide... oh, yeah, the 1991 Nobel Peace Prize winner Aung San Suu Kyi.

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1991/kyi/facts/

braiamp 9 hours ago||
Committee can’t predict the future man, they only had her actions before 1991. Her showing up at the ICJ was probably a move to appease the military and it didn’t work, they ousted her in 2021 anyway. If you want change argue for awarding it posthumously or that the prize is for worthy actions already done, in which case there are easier targets like Kissinger
josu 9 hours ago|||
> Committee can’t predict the future man

Sure, but is it really that difficult to give the *Peace* prize to someone who will not commit genocide eventually? Most people in the world never commit genocide.

jamesnorden 8 hours ago|||
You're just repeating yourself.
dam_jackalopes 6 hours ago||||
Apparently it is. Your question seems to indicate that there were some indicators that she was genocidal that they should have picked up on while she was on house arrest and missed. What were they?
nashashmi 6 hours ago|||
Most people in the world are also not very powerful. Amongst the powerful people, how many eventually commit genocide ?
kbelder 3 hours ago||
A small fraction.
ngaiorn 6 hours ago|||
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gamblor956 4 hours ago||
She didn't commit genocide.

After she won the Nobel Prize, the Burmese legislature banded together to give her the power to:“contact ministries, departments, organizations, associations and individuals" to promote democracy and free market capitalism.

Basically, she had the power to talk to people as a figurehead for the hopes and ideals of the country, but no power to actually pass or enforce laws, and no control over law enforcement or the military.

What exactly were you expecting her to do? Say mean things about the military officers committing the genocides and hope they got embarrassed enough to stop?

lostlogin 2 hours ago||
Do you think asking them to stop a genocide is unreasonable?

But either way, she wasn’t silent on the issue. She minimised what was happening, talked about violence on both sides and defended the military committing a genocide in The Hague. She helped block investigations into it. She is complicit.

‘In December 2019, Aung San Suu Kyi appeared in the International Court of Justice at The Hague where she defended the Burmese military against allegations of genocide against the Rohingya’.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi

nervai 12 hours ago||
Reminder that the US administration is on a campaign to dismantle the ICC for echoing similar findings to this Nobel Prize winner in her role at UNHRC [1].

I'm extremely grateful to, and humbled by, these people continuing their brave work knowing they will face the full wrath of the US and Israel govs and their campaigns to dismantle accountability for the worst crimes.

[1] https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...

vincnetas 11 hours ago||
"The ICC poses an intolerable threat to U.S. sovereignty – it claims the authority to prosecute and even imprison American servicemen and officials operating on behalf of America’s national interest. Americans never signed up for this, and all American presidents since the ICC’s ratification have maintained that the ICC does not have jurisdiction over Americans. The ICC previously opened an investigation into U.S. servicemen and intelligence officers and has since refused to close these cases."

Yeah, but somehow if i do some illegal shit according to USA they have no problem arresting me when i come visit (or if they really eager they come to visit me). But how dare you tell us what we can do or cant do INTOLERABLE.

Telemakhos 11 hours ago||
Yes, that’s what sovereignty means: a sovereign state governs itself and is not governed by others. A sovereign state can agree to abide by certain rules or submit some disputes to another arbiter, but it does so consensually by treaty. The US never ratified a treaty establishing the authority of the ICC, so it has not consented to that diminution of sovereignty.

You as an individual are not sovereign, and when you come to the land over which the US is sovereign, you are subject to US law.

freehorse 10 hours ago|||
> You as an individual are not sovereign, and when you come to the land over which the US is sovereign, you are subject to US law.

And if an american, whom ICC have found guilty on crimes, visits a country which upholds ICC rulings they should be arrested, no?

Nobody talked about kidnapping people in the US or doing anything similar. In contrast, the US is in a habit on (among others)

1. kidnapping

2. bombing

3. otherwise assassinating

4. sanctioning

5. demanding extradition (the only actual "legal" part)

foreign citizens that they do not like. We can also say that no other, non american citizen has actually agreed to these practices either, nor to US authority to be the world serif. So these arguments more like read like monopoly of global violence/authority than "sovereignty".

gamblor956 4 hours ago||
Yes, that is correct. Any Americans who have been found guilty by the ICC of crimes wouldn't visit signatories of the ICC's establishing treaty.

All zero of them...because no Americans have been found guilty by the ICC of any crimes under its jurisdiction.

DANmode 57 minutes ago||
Whenever the ICC has moved close to scrutinizing the U.S. or its close allies, Washington has retaliated with severe consequences.
cycomanic 11 hours ago||||
The main part of the argument is that the US is very happy to apply their laws to foreign citizens for things they have done on foreign soil and are also happy to legally or illegally extract those citizens from the foreign states. That does in fact directly violate those other states sovereignty.
weberer 10 hours ago||
>foreign citizens for things they have done on foreign soil

When has this ever happened? You might be referring to Maduro's extradition, but that was due to him being charged with smuggling mass amounts of cocaine into the USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosecution_of_Nicol%C3%A1s_Ma...

Gud 4 hours ago|||
During the height of the war on terror(I guess, the laws are still on the books and are being used willy nilly), USA routinely kidnapped people across the globe and put them in dungeons for years, without trial. Probably still happens, who knows.

You can't be serious.

dudefeliciano 4 hours ago||
> Probably still happens, who knows.

Now they just kill them, also without a trial, judge or jury.

"American forces have conducted at least 71 strikes and killed 239 people the U.S. alleges are “narco-terrorists” since Sept. 2, 2025."

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/6132578-pentagon-drug-car...

lostlogin 1 hour ago||
It makes a change from drone strikes on Afghan weddings, which was a thing for a while.
j_maffe 9 hours ago||||
Sanctioning ICC judges. They did nothing relevant to US citizens.
9dev 4 hours ago||||
Maybe the purported drug boat bombings have escaped your attention?
lostlogin 1 hour ago||
Maybe the bombing of a school? Or destroying civilian infrastructure? Assassination of a head of state? Or kidnapping a head of state?

Limiting things to this year.

dormento 3 hours ago||||
The orange buffoon also attempted (either himself or his cronies) to sanction a brazilian justice for applying brazilian law correctly against the last american-backed, coup-happy president. Since a visa ban, asset freeze and travel restrictions didn't work (on part due to the far superior bank transfer infrastructure) they're now brazenly supporting the right-wing candidate.
megous 6 hours ago||||
I mentioned several examples of US sanctioned human rights organizations just in this comment thread. That's some US law applied to foreigners.
tosapple 10 hours ago||||
i was just going to bring this up, but a different aspect: I'm not curious about the drug charges, I'm curious about the gun charges as unlevied.
dudefeliciano 8 hours ago||||
Ever heard of extraordinary renditions?
dormento 3 hours ago|||
> When has this ever happened?

when has it ever not?

> Maduro

(Not an american citizen btw)

> extradition

...

bawolff 7 hours ago||||
> The US never ratified a treaty establishing the authority of the ICC, so it has not consented to that diminution of sovereignty.

And the ICC never tried to diminish their sovereignty. Juridsiction at the icc works the same way as it does with states.

If you commit a crime on the territory of a sovereign state, that state gets to punish you. If you are a citizen of a soverign state then that state gets to punish you.

That is how it works in countries, and that is how it works at the ICC . ICC is no different from any country. The crime has to happen on the territory of a member state or be comitted by a national of a member state (im ignoring the referral from UNSC part as that is obscure)

yread 11 hours ago||||
Conversely, American individuals are also not sovereign so when they come to a sovereign land where they are sought (by the state or its partners through treaties) for crimes, they are subject to the the state's laws and treaties.
brookst 10 hours ago||||
This would more persuasive if the US didn’t have a long history of prosecuting, even kidnapping, foreign nationals on foreign soil for violations of US law.
Sharlin 6 hours ago||
It’s the lucky ones who get prosecuted and actually given some semblance of a fair trial. The less fortunate are just taken to torture centers and left to rot there.
Ozzie_osman 10 hours ago||||
> The US never ratified a treaty establishing the authority of the ICC, so it has not consented to that diminution of sovereignty.

True, they could ignore the ICC, but they shouldn't go around sanctioning and punishing and threatening its judges.

tgv 10 hours ago||||
> a sovereign state governs itself and is not governed by others

Hence, if anyone commits a crime in another country, they fall under the jurisdiction of that country. So while the US doesn't have to recognize the ICC, listen to it, or follow its verdicts, other countries are free to do so.

But now the US is threatening the judges of the ICC, which is hypocritical to say the least. It's more of a mafia thing, really. Not surprising, given Trump's background.

vincnetas 11 hours ago||||
So it should be no surprise to USA that sovereign countries that abide to ICC rulings take actions against individual USA citizens.
pirate787 10 hours ago||
This isn't true, the US considers prosecution by the ICC as an act of war.
kannanvijayan 6 hours ago||
The US also considers prosecution of the Epstein child rapists as unnecessary.

Point being, I don't really think that "the US considers" carries a whole lot of weight these days.

DANmode 55 minutes ago||
Our Jimmy Saville moment.

How fun.

bjornsing 4 hours ago|||
Sure. But don’t come traveling here (Sweden) and tell us we can’t submit you to the ICC.
bawolff 7 hours ago|||
> campaign to dismantle the ICC for echoing similar findings

i feel like this misrepresents what the ICC has found. They found there was enough plausible cause to issue a warrant. That means they think that a trial should take place to figure out what is going on. It does not mean they think anyone is guilty. Lots of people subject to warrants end up being found innocent. Its step 1 of the process not the entire process.

And to further clarify, if your implication is that its similar to accusations of genocide - the ICC has jurisdiction over genocide and did not publicly issue a warrant for that charge against any israeli national.

To be clear i find the us campaign disgusting.

megous 5 hours ago||
Warrant issuance is only done if pre-trial chamber deems the suspects would continue the crimes (they very apparently did - total blockade of Gaza in 2025 leading to starvation of around 1 million people), or tamper with investigation (killing witnesses, etc. - also happened, many journalists were killed on purpose since, organizations tracking harm were banned as "terrorists" in Israel, and that's just what's easy to see, and lots of evidence is being destroyed to this day as Israel continues blowing up and buldozing Gaza, also on purpose, and also against orders of ICJ in the case against Israel as a state, not just against Netanyahu).

And you don't know much about the ICC process and could not have observed it if you think warrant is step 1. It's like step 7. If you did not watch the process, you can still learn the ICC procedure from the rules of the court. It's all freely available on their website.

bawolff 17 minutes ago||
> Warrant issuance is only done if pre-trial chamber deems the suspects would continue the crimes

This is untrue. ICC sometimes issues warrants for crimes that were in the past where it is unlikely the crime will continue.

>tamper with investigation (killing witnesses, etc

While this is something the ICC could issue a warrant for if there was reasonable cause, to date they have not publicly. So far the ICC has not accused Israel of this.

>And you don't know much about the ICC process and could not have observed it if you think warrant is step 1. It's like step 7. If you did not watch the process, you can still learn the ICC procedure from the rules of the court. It's all freely available on their website.

i was oversimplifying a bit, like yes, there is some process around letting complemtary take its course, but the warrant is the first step where the accused can actually do anything about it. my point was its very far away from a guilty verdict

Vaslo 11 hours ago||
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9dev 4 hours ago|||
Oh, that’s true. But when you come to a foreign country, you’ll have to recognise its laws. And if that country happens to have ratified the ICC, and the ICC has a warrant for you, well then you’re bound for trial.

It’s the same rules you apply yourself, right?

khalic 10 hours ago||||
Oh but others must recognize America's laws right? Oh the hypocrisy
Vaslo 10 hours ago||
It’s not hypocrisy. Don’t follow them. But when your interests conflict with ours, then we will exert our influence.
bad_haircut72 9 hours ago|||
As Americas star continues to wane over the coming decades y'all are really going to regret this "might makes right" stance.
Vaslo 8 hours ago||
Not very worried about it. Im 100% sure we will be fine.
khalic 8 hours ago|||
you might want to check your infant mortality rate...
lioeters 1 hour ago|||
Delusional, but expected.
croon 8 hours ago||||
It's not hypocrisy if your argument is that "might makes right", but if your argument is that the US has other principles, it is indeed hypocrisy.

And in that case, so much for "western ideals", if it's purely "America first, no ideals".

ks2048 9 hours ago||||
Sometimes self-interest leads to cooperation.
Vaslo 8 hours ago||
I agree with you.
khalic 10 hours ago||||
No you will kidnap people, have them killed, silenced, accounts freeze, etc. It's not merely "exercising influence", it's coercion. It's exactly the case here, it's the US's prerogative not to follow the ICCs judgements, it's none of your fkn business what laws other countries have. If a US citizen is in another territory, it's that territory's law that count.

Your government also routinely ignores its own laws and judgements.

Hypocrisy at all the levels, and lying to try to still have the moral high ground.

mda 9 hours ago||||
Typical American hubris.
tchalla 9 hours ago|||
I wish more people understand this very clearly instead of hiding behind "democratic values" and other moral lectures.
dudefeliciano 11 hours ago||||
doing a pretty shit job at that too tbh
Vaslo 10 hours ago||
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enaaem 9 hours ago|||
The US is a colony of Israel.
mandeepj 6 hours ago||
This announcement has become an annual troll event for the lunatic in the office; I heard he was pretty pissed off this morning, although that’s usually the case with him.
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myth_drannon 9 hours ago||
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prometheus1992 9 hours ago||
is there no israeli lobby in washington though? have you heard of AIPAC?
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bigyabai 5 hours ago||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens's_razor
localhoster 7 hours ago||
Drop of light in a sea of darkness. I wasn't expecting seeing this in hn. This site is infected.
r2_pilot 5 hours ago||
You're welcome to find a more suitable place to visit. Nobody is requiring your presence here, unless they are. Which is a different conversation.
hparadiz 12 hours ago|
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khalic 11 hours ago||
You mean war criminals like Netanyahu?
xg15 11 hours ago||
Get out of the Israeli bubble please...
cramer4next 11 hours ago||
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dudefeliciano 11 hours ago||
No, being in a bubble means being disconnected from the broader reality.
cramer4next 11 hours ago||
Not from my perspective. Being in bubble means your lacking experience and living a sheltered life. Reality is subjective to ones view.
dudefeliciano 11 hours ago||
> lacking experience and living a sheltered life.

Hence "Israeli Bubble", sheltered from the reality of their (government/army) actions, convinced to be the most moral army in the world.

> Reality is subjective to ones view.

Maybe your subjective reality, that's your thoughts and feelings. But there is an objective reality, like tens of thousands of children killed, the use of a starvation campaign in Gaza, all of Gaza City being turned to rubble which you can see for yourself on google maps satellite view, and many more such war crimes that have been factually proven.

cramer4next 10 hours ago||
I'm still confused how this has anything to do with a noble prize?

Secondly did you ever watch the aftermath of the U.S dropping atomic bombs on Japan? How many children were killed? How many innocent people suffered? Thats the "reality" of war.

netsharc 10 hours ago||
Not the person you were conversing with, but: Sheesh, how dismissive of the tens of thousands of dead (both in Gaza and in Japan).

If you want to claim to be more civilized than Hamas and their cheerleaders, not being angry when "your side" doesn't take all effort to kill civilians is not how to do it.

Some in Palestine cheered when 7 October happened. Some cheered when 9/11 happened. If you ask them "how can you, those innocents died for no reason" and they replied "That's the 'reality' of war", how would you feel?

And if you consider them uncivilized barbarics for not caring, how do you view yourself? Ah yeah of course you're different, you're on the "right side", and for you "it's fine" (or "it's reality of war") when the "wrong" innocents die...

cramer4next 9 hours ago||
How am I being dismissive? I simply stated two things around the discussion of "bubble" and "reality". I made no opinion or view, rather I defined bubble and stated the reality of what war really is.

Nothing I said is about whats wrong or right. I simply pointed out historical facts. The same way the original comment I replied to.

Innocent people everyday are victims in a system they have absolutely no control over. Especially in cases of war and international affairs. None of these statements reflect any of my personal feelings or passing a judgement on any grouping of people.

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