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Posted by meetpateltech 6 hours ago

Muse Wonder(research.meta.ai)
475 points | 255 commentspage 3
minraws 5 hours ago|
Just checked their subscription is still North America only, I guess I will keep myself and my company with claude...

These regional lockdowns are making me feel funky, I feel like I should just use open models if others start playing at this game as well.

I was/am fine with Chinese companies offering cheaper subscriptions in China because ofc. But this is just weird, you could always charge me more let me try the damn thing, atleast it's own open router it seems like.

Initial impressions, interesting, it generated a pretty ok result for my prompt need to run a larger task but don't want to burn money so will wait for someone to burn their subscription and try running some opus 5.5 comparisons.

serf 5 hours ago||
spinning up a GPU and as many cores as possible?

mousewheel repurposed?

background follow your mouse?

neutral tones?

well then YOU are viewing a frontier model announcement!

hugh4life 3 hours ago||
As someone who got a Muse Code sub last month, I find this announcement a bit disheartening because it makes me think the lower tier subs are going to get rug pulled. I'm on the $15 plan for a month now and it's value with Muse Spark 1.3 Max-contributor beats everything else by a long shot. Two somewhat small prompts with Muse Wonder Max-contributor used 4% of my weekly quota and I quickly switched back. I was thinking about getting the $50 plan and I'm actually less likely to do that right now.
sieve 2 hours ago|
Have you tried OpenCode Go? $10/mo is what I am willing to spend because most of the stuff I do is hobbyist. And OpenCode Go gives you $60 worth of MS Contributor 1.3 usage for that $10. Starting today, they actually provide $80 worth of DeepSeek 4.1 Flash usage if you want to use that.

Unless you are running a swarm of agents, it is extremely difficult to exhaust these plans in a month.

hugh4life 2 hours ago|||
Yes, I'm on OpenCode Go too... and it's great they raised the usage levels on DS4.1 Flash. But I was really thinking of cancelling it to get either a 2nd Muse Code sub or to go up to the $50 tier.

You have to realize that $15 Muse Code sub with Muse Spark 1.3 gets you around $1500 worth of usage. Neither Opencode Go or really anything else is even in the same ballpark of value. https://x.com/PawelHuryn/status/2106724136932327458

I was hoping this level of subsidization would last a long time but today's announcement make we worried it'll end pretty quickly. There's a lot of AI influencers noting just how fast Muse Wonder uses up their quotas so hopefully fixes are made.

sieve 2 hours ago||
Yeah, I barely manage to exhaust the $60 worth of tokens. I have to think of new things to use up $1500 worth.

Thanks to competition from open models, there is a limit to how much prices can be increased though.

demibabs 31 minutes ago|||
How does OpenCode Go work? How do they make any money?
nerevarthelame 6 hours ago||
In the context of Meta trying to get non-technical people to embrace Muse agents to handle personal affairs, their internal metric showing a ~3% violation rate for mishandling personal information seems unacceptably high.
revolvingthrow 5 hours ago|
There seem to be no downsides to mishandling PI so I don't think it's a big concern to Meta
runarberg 4 hours ago||
Not long ago we used to have regulators that protected users from companies pushing out harmful or consumer hostile products.
aftbit 5 hours ago||
Not that interesting unless it's made open weights. Frontier lasts weeks, inference is a commodity.
6thbit 3 hours ago||
So, Wonder (and not Wonder Full) will "will soon power experiences in" their assistant app. But no rollout details .

Then, Full is meant for API usage and "Muse Code" only.

It's getting confusing what having "Muse" means.

nater5000 1 hour ago|
It's crazy how often these companies botch the naming of things like this. There's definitely some intricate and insanely bureaucratic accounting going into the marketing aspects of these products that results in absurdity by the time it reaches actual consumers lol
lexoj 3 hours ago||
Reminded me of when George Hotz said only Zuck has “the button”. [0]

[0] https://youtu.be/-qRc7qou6XY?is=hWofxO0G6X3JjST5

nater5000 1 hour ago|
lmao this interview sucks. Even Lex seems confused and disinterested in this conversation. Hotz is more excited about generating some sound bite than he is in explaining himself. His "the button" take is nonsense.

Also, this was 3 years ago, and he's been effectively wrong about his bet. But hey, maybe Muse Wonder is when Zucc's plan will come to fruition.

kraf 3 hours ago||
The Mishandling Personal Information benchmark is non-sensical: that's the very definition of giving your personal data to Meta
alpineman 5 hours ago||
Does it weight tokens on their ability to elicit negative emotions in users in order to drive engagement?
jawiggins 3 hours ago|
While some are afraid that one rouge AI system may take over the world (or cause doom is some fashion), I think one of the best safety mechanisms to prevent this is having many competing and adversarial labs that are extremely close to each other. So it's good to see that Meta is not showing any intention of leaving the frontier.
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