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Posted by recvonline 10 hours ago

Firefox Enterprise(www.firefox.com)
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sdcfgy 9 hours ago|
I can't think of a single enterprise who I have worked with or know who'd pay for this when there's Chrome or Edge available.
ahartmetz 9 hours ago||
You can't think of an enterprise that doesn't want all of its web browsing metadata collected by third parties? Some enterprises are much more security-conscious than that. I have seen protected paper trash bins in a research lab and office buildings with X-ray scanners (mainly for electronic devices, not weapons).
TiredOfLife 9 hours ago|||
That's what enterprise edge and probably also chrome do already.
ltbarcly3 6 hours ago|||
Nobody cares about that and also puts their devices on the internet. Literally nobody.
ryukoposting 6 minutes ago|||
Governments come to mind. European ones, especially.
ndegruchy 9 hours ago|||
There's already Island browser that competes in this space. Plenty of companies pay for browser control that goes beyond what the normal policies can provide.
lirolero 9 hours ago||
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jklinger410 2 hours ago||
Every single ounce of sweat put towards an AI feature or redesign or side project (anon email) should have been put towards this, and implemented, a long time ago. And this will ACTUALLY make them more money, and allow them to actually build a better browser.
rkagerer 4 hours ago||
Can someone expound on the DLP features? E.g.:

Can you do basic string pattern matching to prevent leaks of sensitive data?

In the case of a credit card, for instance, how would you distinguish between a user legitimately "buying something on a website" from "posting customer card to a forum" or "sending to a chatbot" (or even "inappropriately making purchase with customer card")?

Can you match the data itself against an allow/flag/deny list?

Can you run data through a local or corporately-situated LLM instructed to "Assess whether this looks potentially sensitive" via a given set of rules, and flag it to the user or a supervisor to proceed/abort?

How extensive are in-built features, and what kind of hooks and feedback/UI interaction is available for third party integrations?

gcp 23 minutes ago||
Yes. You have some control by including/excluding certain sites from the rules, i.e. you could exclude common shopping sites from the CC rules, and we imagine most folks trying to stop (accidental) exfil through AI chatbots are going to block most common providers there.

Warning (instead of blocking) is possible. Due to the security logging (plus, if wanted, SIEM integration) you get the flagging.

Can you run data through a local or corporately-situated LLM instructed to "Assess whether this looks potentially sensitive" via a given set of rules, and flag it to the user or a supervisor to proceed/abort?

Not in the first version, but this is an area we are working in.

what kind of hooks and feedback/UI interaction is available for third party integrations?

We support the standard SDK for this which is also used by Chromium based products:

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2025/03/improving-firefox-stabilit...

That's how Trellix and Broadcom integrate with it as well.

allmightyleobyt 26 minutes ago||
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timcobb 8 hours ago||
Finally something that makes sense from these guys!
SloopJon 7 hours ago||
I'm sure this is great for improving adoption on the admin side, but I'm also sure that I would hate using a locked-down Firefox.

My company has management software that nags me about the latest Firefox version, which is annoying, because I use the extended support release instead. Less frequent updates, and fewer sudden changes like the AI features people have been grumbling about.

Incidentally, 153.5.0esr was released today, with 140 reaching EoL.

penguin_booze 7 hours ago||
I don't know. Like another comment here says, some companies have been blocking Firefox because it's difficult to bend it to their will. For them, a browser has always meant one thing: Chrome. With Firefox entering the mix now, it's going to be 'yet another browser when we already have one'. Most corporate admins, I'd think, will say 'no, thanks'.
hobo123 4 hours ago||
I once had to work with group policy FF that prevented me from configuring the way FF started. I wanted it to keep the session, but instead it always started with a blank slate. Mind-blowingly stupid.
zecg 9 hours ago||
Does this mean they will remove "AI controls" (i.e. a way to completely shut all LLM shit off) from normal Firefox?
gcp 17 minutes ago||
There are no such plans.

(Regardless of one's feelings about generative AI, I think some features like local translation or alt text are too nice to be labeled "LLM shit", but I admit I am biased)

driverdan 7 hours ago|||
You can already turn everything off under Settings -> AI Control. Personally I keep Translations on so I can translate locally instead of calling external services.
ashenke 9 hours ago|||
They list this as a feature in the submission page.
sunaookami 9 hours ago|||
No, why would you think that?
cowsandmilk 9 hours ago|||
The page literally says

> AI controls — allow, restrict or disable AI tools

So the answer is yes, no need for making up a cynical answer.

rockdoe 9 hours ago|||
I think that just means https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/ai-controls/ will be administrator controlled in Enterprise settings. As in, the admin can force-disable all that stuff.
malfist 9 hours ago||||
Features aren't a zero sum game. Enterprise can have a set of features, and the consumer version can have the same feature. Turn the example around. Enterprise Firefox will render HTML. That does not mean the consumer version will have the ability to render HTML removed.

So the answer isn't yes. The answer is we don't know if they will or will not remove the feature from non-enterprise, but it doesn't seem likely.

llm_nerd 9 hours ago||||
Ignoring that a feature page for a tier can include features from other "tiers", they're explicitly describing central governance and configuration of this.

So the answer is no, no need for reading tea leaves and making stuff up.

And I mean, does everyone here know that Firefox is open source?

sunaookami 7 hours ago|||
The answer is not yes, why are you spreading bs? It's just an extra feature item on the list, there is nothing that gets removed in the "normal" Firefox.
VCFundedGenYer 8 hours ago|||
If you actually read the article you'd see the up-front bullet point that allows for it.
coldpie 7 hours ago|||
Can you point to where specifically in the article it says that:

> they will remove "AI controls" from normal Firefox

which is the question the original poster asked?

sunaookami 7 hours ago|||
You need to work on your reading comprehension.
sfink 7 hours ago||
No. Are you thinking that was a feature intended to appeal to corporate use or something? I'm pretty sure it was all about AI backlash. It's still a popular setting to have available. (I have no idea how many people actually use it.)
dzonga 9 hours ago||
this is move that should have been done a long time ago + with a bundled vpn or equivalent of a tailscale in the browser.

Mozilla would have made tons of money.

rockdoe 8 hours ago||
Someone dropped the following link, which seems to have way more detail than the press releases: https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/enterprise/158.0/relea...

It looks like they do actually offer that as a feature: "Employees can access internal company sites and web apps from personal devices without a device-level VPN"

Edit: To give proper credit, the link is from Heise.de

gcp 15 minutes ago|||
Firefox Enterprise does include similar functionality :-)
lenerdenator 9 hours ago||
Hopefully they still can. Healthy Firefox == healthy browser market.
projectescape 3 hours ago||
I feel like people don't take the Chromium monopoly seriously. Sure, Brave is great, but it's still chromium, making Google have outsized say over how the web behaves. Manifest V3 was the proof, every Chromium browser had to live with it. If this helps Firefox gain ground, I'm all for it.
nicfio 1 hour ago||
I'm working on a demanding project that has performance as a fundamental requirement. Unfortunately Firefox turned out to be disappointing: audio/video codecs not supported or supported badly, and decidedly poor performance. Chrome instead is decidedly on another level. My opinion is that firefox prefers the road of features, neglecting the care of performance, and maybe this also depends on the fact that Mozilla doesn't have a big company behind it like chrome has google. It's a big problem, because on this road I don't see a great future for firefox, and we would end up on a road of de facto monopoly, which is not good for anyone.
gcp 12 minutes ago||
Always happy to get bug reports about audio/video playback issues or performance gaps. We have a built-in profiler that makes it very likely we can narrow down the cause and fix it: https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/performance/reportin... ... IF someone actually bothers to submit a bug and profile.
projectescape 3 hours ago||
Haven't had any reason to not use firefox since quantum
mosdl 5 hours ago||
20 years too late unfortunately. They turned their backs on enterprise when the Netscape org was killed off and lost a lot of momentum because of that.
levkk 5 hours ago|
No such thing. Business, like history, goes in circles.
ihuman 7 hours ago|
How is this different from autoconfig.js, firefox.cfg, and other `defaults/pref` options? Orgs can already use that to manage and lock down Firefox preferences, ban/force extensions, and more
gcp 9 minutes ago||
a) it's much easier to work with b) you have much more monitoring possibilities c) it adds a pile of features d) you can host all supporting services (sync, updates, telemetry, etc) on premise - if you want
edelbitter 5 hours ago||
The current policies are not very enterprise-friendly yet.

Some settings are flat out refused (for "security reasons"). And with each new update there are a few new popups / invitations to try this new feature / re-enabling the v2 of the thing of which the v1 was already opted out in the policy. And it seems like you cannot apply new policy while the browser is running - meaning it cannot be used to roll out hotfixes without interrupting the work of currently unaffected workstations.

And then there is the syncing. If you want to manage & sync history, bookmarks and the password managers content.. you are probably going to find that easier by overriding the builtin features with 3rd-party extensions, as the builtin sync feature is very much tailored to the needs of privately owned devices and one-device-at-a-time usage patterns.

rockdoe 2 hours ago||
And it seems like you cannot apply new policy while the browser is running - meaning it cannot be used to roll out hotfixes without interrupting the work of currently unaffected workstations.

The changelog linked above seems to hint this is specifically fixed/a new feature in the Enterprise version:

"Many policy-driven changes can take effect without restarting the browser."

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