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Posted by 737max 12 hours ago

Gemini 4 Argon(deepmind.google)
See also: Gemini 4 Argon for Robotics - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50074869
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eluusive 11 hours ago|
Just switched, and it seems to be much better. I'm hoping it stops lying. I have Pro max subs for Claude, Codex, Grok, and Google AI... I was forced into using Google by running out of credits elsewhere.

I have found that Gemini often claims it did something, but didn't actually complete the task.

I just had 3.8 Flash do a major refactor -- that never should have needed to be done in the first place -- and switched to Argon 4, and had it review it.

Almost everything had been stubbed out by 3.8, and none of it was properly integrated into the codebase. :facepalm:

gigatexal 5 hours ago||
Going to take a lot for me to move from subsidized Claude opus 5.5 … this Google model is very cheap though.
iharnoor 8 hours ago||
isn't harness as important as model these days?
DataDaoDe 11 hours ago||
Unlike most people it seems, I like all the progress in AI but I really do wish they would reign in the over-the-top marketing. I mean, can we just get this stuff to the point where I can reliably work with it to design a well-architected software project without having to constantly struggle against bloat and nonsense directions no experienced or sane developer would ever take.

fyi: argon is an interesting choice of name, coming from the Greek argos meaning "lazy or living w/out labor".

aleksiy123 11 hours ago|
I think in this case it’s from the element argon
DataDaoDe 11 hours ago||
Yes probably but that's still from Greek (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argon#History)
SXX 10 hours ago||
Now when another uninteresting frotier model been released Google can finally start doing what we actually waiting for:

Start preparing Gemma 5 release.

oblio 6 hours ago||
Is this supposed to be the new Gemini Pro?
lxgr 11 hours ago||
Glad to see them abandon the absolute train wreck of their model naming "strategy".

Gemini Live vs. Gemini Lite vs. Gemini Pro vs. Gemini Flash vs. Nano Banana Lite (that one apparently has no Gemini prefix?)... Please, just pick a metaphor and stick with it without wildly mixing reasoning modes, model sizes, and input/output modalities in the model name!

azan_ 7 hours ago||
I've asked Argon to do 3D model for me. It said that it can't do it. I've linked promotional materials and said that it actually can. It agreed and got me a model (not a great one). Man, why is Gemini like this? Every time I fall for the hype I get disappointed.
jeffrallen 8 hours ago||
I use Gemini all day at work via the chat interface. It's rock solid. I find it hard to understand which model it's using though. Am I already using Argon, or does it switch models according to the subject?
redox99 11 hours ago|
Only available in the $100 plan, and it's worse than Opus 5.5? Why would you ever buy this?
nateb2022 11 hours ago||
> Only available in the $100 plan

Source? Their documentation says it's available on the $20 plan and I can confirm firsthand.

https://one.google.com/intl/en_us/about/google-ai-plans/

redox99 11 hours ago||
Not for coding (antigravity).

https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/2110038940841545827

upcoming-sesame 10 hours ago||
that sucks. Gemini app is so far behind all the other agentic chat apps that I hardly use it beyond a Google search these days.

it needs MCP asap

nateb2022 9 hours ago||
It supports MCP, you just need to configure those in the web interface: https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/17209137?hl=en
upcoming-sesame 9 hours ago||
I don't see that option. US only apparently
zarzavat 5 hours ago|||
They don't want anyone to use it, Google just want to show their shareholders that they're still relevant.
theplumber 11 hours ago||
Because you have an android phone and don’t want to mess around with anything else(i.e the same reason people just use internet explorer on windows) or you hold Google stock so you want to support your investment :)
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