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Posted by 737max 11 hours ago

Gemini 4 Argon(deepmind.google)
See also: Gemini 4 Argon for Robotics - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50074869
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joejohnson 8 hours ago|
Does this mean Googlers will stop using Claude internally?
jordemort 10 hours ago||
at this rate we're gonna run out of stupid names for these things

"Hans, we're doing a new point release! What isn't crossed out on the periodic table yet?"

brainwad 8 hours ago|
Since they are going alphabetically, they're already going to be fucked before getting to 10 (there's no element starting with J).
cubefox 3 hours ago||
The free version now uses Gemini 3.5 Flash-Lite rather than Gemini 3.6 Flash.
ainch 10 hours ago||
Not available for me on Pro in the UK.
nateb2022 10 hours ago|
As with the previous Gemini releases, rollout is batched.
gigatexal 4 hours ago||
Going to take a lot for me to move from subsidized Claude opus 5.5 … this Google model is very cheap though.
fraywing 8 hours ago||
So like... do I get access?
eluusive 10 hours ago||
Just switched, and it seems to be much better. I'm hoping it stops lying. I have Pro max subs for Claude, Codex, Grok, and Google AI... I was forced into using Google by running out of credits elsewhere.

I have found that Gemini often claims it did something, but didn't actually complete the task.

I just had 3.8 Flash do a major refactor -- that never should have needed to be done in the first place -- and switched to Argon 4, and had it review it.

Almost everything had been stubbed out by 3.8, and none of it was properly integrated into the codebase. :facepalm:

iharnoor 7 hours ago||
isn't harness as important as model these days?
DataDaoDe 10 hours ago|
Unlike most people it seems, I like all the progress in AI but I really do wish they would reign in the over-the-top marketing. I mean, can we just get this stuff to the point where I can reliably work with it to design a well-architected software project without having to constantly struggle against bloat and nonsense directions no experienced or sane developer would ever take.

fyi: argon is an interesting choice of name, coming from the Greek argos meaning "lazy or living w/out labor".

aleksiy123 10 hours ago|
I think in this case it’s from the element argon
DataDaoDe 10 hours ago||
Yes probably but that's still from Greek (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argon#History)
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